RE: Stock Box19 Jan 2024 22:00
@PM01
Firstly, I'm sure the discussion board appreciates the level of detail you've gone into interms of explaining the meaning of CIF, and also the different delivery basis terms. It's important that everyone understands that.
The point I was trying to make (albeit rather inarticulately) is that you have load port figures and discharge port figures. They never match. He's selling his quantity of cargo on a delivered basis(ie when it gets to the again port on China) when it would be much better to sell on a loaded figures basis. Alot can happen during a voyage, containers can go missing etc etc. If he sends 100 tonnes (figure just for this example) and the reciever says you've only sent us 80tonnes then he's lost 20%. Camax are only going to pay for the recieved product that is on spec.
Is he chartering a whole ship or is he doing a space charter (a few containers a month).
How is he getting the product to the load port in Africa? Freight trains, trucks? Will he need cargo expeditiors? What port is he shipping out of in Africa? Will he outsource this function? Or is he going he going to create an in house department to take care of this? Will he rent or buy the cargo containers? What voyage route is the ship taking? These factors will determine the cost...he's not providing any clarity on this.
To be fair as Pingu said, this isnt top of the priority list at the moment but questions need to be asked about this aspect in the future because it will chip away at the profits.
I'm not sure why you're mentioning Brexit as the cargo is being shipped from Africa to China? But acknowledge it may have affected global operations./terminology. I realise that the end product might may end up in Europe and UK (perhaps this is why you're mentioning) but I'm pretty sure that once it gets refined in china (presuming the batteries are being made in china also) I think it will be deemed as a brand new product with stated origin as China (ie it's not prems problem its canmax's)