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Simon Thompson is in Warrington today visiting the new Hub.
This speak absolute VOLUMES about the present stand-off between union and Board.
The discussions are basically over.
Oh my F..k.n God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has it been delayed? Scrapped even?
to put forward that contention in the High Court when contesting the undoubted sackings that are most certainly heading our way.
A hiding to nothing comes to mind.
Perfectly put!!
your wrong.
Just take one of them (1 or 2) of the grievances and run it through 12 weeks...and thats that.
Kretinsky waits until every opportunity has been afforded the CWU to see sense and accept this last offer...they might be able to negotiate a slightly better deal than this latest one...but not by much.
Kretinsky, at some point in the very near future, is unshackled from any moral or legal obligation which might or might not have been imposed by the Secretary of State or requested (for polictical correctness when viewed by the eyes of the public) by the present Board of RMG, and begins to steadily increase his position; he will place himself into ideal positioning either for a full-blown takeover offer or to greater benefit from the splitting apart of Royal Mail Uk and GLS into two seperate companies (I now favour the latter).
The company, if indeed VR has been oversubscribed (and I see no reason to doubt this) offers 20,000 posties the new redundancy terms...obviously all the posties who applied take up this offer.
The company sends every postie, still in employment, a letter warning them of the consequences of further strike action after the 12 weeks expires.
The CWU membership (in the main) refuses to comply and continue with their strike action.
The sackings begin. Massive demonstrations, violence on the picket lines...and desperate pictures broadcasted worldwide of screaming posties (placards and fists flailing) disappearing under the flying hooves of gigantic and snorting police horses.
Agency workers bused in by the thousands. Agency workers given part-time and full-time contracts. Striking posties jobs all replaced.
A broken Dave Ward lying in hospital with a crowd around him...one of them is reading from a book and praying out aloud.
Pullinger is voted in as the next General Secretary of the now much depleted CWU.
And if I have missed anything please feel free to contribute...because all of this, if the CWU don't come to the table by the end of next week...is most certainly going to happen.
CWU? RIP by the looks of things.
Wonder what the breakaway union might call itself?
"After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute."
What don't you understand about this simple one sentence, IsleworthSpy?
You CAN be sacked for taking part in strike action after the 12 week period...and it matters not one jot if you strike for one day or one month. The end result is the same? You CAN be sacked!!
And we more than likely will be...well, a great proportion of us at the very least I would say.
"You can claim unfair dismissal at an employment tribunal if you're dismissed for taking industrial action at any time within the 12 weeks after the action began. After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute."
Not quite sure what your point is...but...
if you are under the impression that to be sacked after 12 weeks of industrial unrest the strike action needs to be continuous...then, sadly...I think you might well be mistaken.
Quite happy to be informed otherwise of course.
Quite so, Maximas...they may well do just that: undesirables before seniority.
And why not? Why sack someone with five years in...not a day on the sick...good conduct record, etc, etc when you can sack someone with twenty years in...but with an appalling sick record?
Like you state: "get rid of those they don’t like, and deal with the consequences at a later date."
I have always thought this is a very real possibility...and looks even more likely to happen now.
And probably all legal.
Its very convoluted...but, basically...your employer can legally sack you if, after 12 weeks which includes attempts at arbitration, you are not prepared to return to work.
And R.M WILL go down that road. Its just a question of when.
I can well believe that there is a big dollop of truth to all of that.
31 October 2022
INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTIONS SERVICES plc (the "Company")
VESA EQUITY INVESTMENT S.à r.l. ("VESA")National Security and Investment Act 2021 ("NSI Act") - Update
On 25 August 2022, the Company announced (whilst still named Royal Mail plc) that it had received notification from the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy ("Secretary of State") that he reasonably suspected that arrangements were in progress or contemplation which, if carried into effect, would result in VESA increasing its shareholding in the Company from 25% or less to more than 25% and that he was exercising his call-in power under section 1 of the NSI Act.
The Company has now been notified by the Secretary of State that no further action is to be taken under the NSI Act in relation to the potential increase by VESA of its shareholding in the Company to more than 25%.
VESA's most recent notification to the Company in relation to its holding, as disclosed to the market on 19 July 2022, indicated that VESA held just over 22% of the total voting rights in the Company at that time.
that Kretinsky was given the green light to increase to 29%...the threshold of the required minimum 30% takeover offer requirement.
she is a complete loon who is obviously in total denial of what most of us can plainly see...and most evidently is motivated by greedy self interest...in cahoots with some shadowy manipulator of the markets perhaps?
Now then...where did I put that little bottle of meths?...ahhhh yes, there you are.
Glug, glug, glug, glug, glug...Belch!!!
"Cheer up, sleepy Jean
Oh, what can it mean
To a daydream believer
And a homecoming quueeeeen!!"
---
"Cheer up, sleepy Jean
Oh, what can it mean
To a daydream believer
And a homecoming quuueeeeeen --
La, la, la, la lahhhh...a dum de dum do dahhhhhh!!!"
BELCH........!!!
She must be insane -- WOOF!!!
If you were to sit down with yourself and really think quite hard about the meaningless contention you have levied at me...you would soon come to realize what a completely idiotic and senseless comment it is to actually ever make. Surely you must feel embarrassed for yourself? What on earth is the point you are trying to establish? apart from personal abuse that is.
If you don't like this thread...why bother coming here in the first place?
That someone cannot start or introduce a new conversation to this board? Is there some sort of artful sequencing to this (what might appear to be, according to you, but obviously not) impromptu chat that inarticulate, uneducated ******s like me could not possibly appreciate or fathom?
What a colossal, pompous buffoon you truly are Charlie.
Your crass stupidity is almost beyond belief!
P.s Yes, Chadders...on something...but I would favour meths myself.
"Why do you always start a new thread when you post. It makes the forum disjointed, harder to follow and makes you appear somewhat precious and conceited."
????????????????
What a tool.
Good night all.
I am not very well clued up on this (and stand to be corrected of course) but its my understanding that if Royal Mail was split into two seperate companies then we, as shareholders, would have the first choice of having 50% of our share holding, that we owned at that present time, split between the two.
If this was the case only a complete idiot would chose the option of not taking up their share allocation in GLS.
But this is where my understanding, if any, ends.
Does this mean that GLS would then trade on the stock market? Or would we just be shareholders in a private company?
If GLS was then traded on the open market...well..one can only hypothesize? But I could well imagine it would be a good trading opportunity for anyone getting in first. Just like Royal Mail was at the IPO of £3.30: proper big brewsters for those first in.
but if R.M split GLS away, and you have sold all your shares, you might miss out on the big party.