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Read a trudged article today about senior global manufacturing execs visiting China and being terrified for their own futures given the automation and robotic capabilities. Dark factories producing phones and batteries because no humans needed.

A Ford exec stated, Ford had no future if the west doesn't catch up, which didn't look likely. China has over 2 million robots vs 32 thousand in the US and 2500 in the UK.

So, does this bode well for HFEL, what element is Chinese stocks and also does anyone know scything about JAGI?

I just read a Telegraph article about top manufacturing company execs visiting and being stunned and terrified by the advances in Chinese manufacture tech.

A Ford exec opined, that unless the west catches up, Ford had no future. Whilst this affects cars, batteries, phones, might defence be next and what does it mean for BAE shares?

My understanding is, A final court hearing on the 14th Oct is required prior to this closing. The longstop has been moved to Oct 27th. Possibly get the cash by Christmas.

Best to wait and see what the idiots deliver in the budget I fear. More tax all around to pay for the indolent and civil servants I fear. Property, pensions, savings ask hammered, then a pay rise for train drivers, doctors etc.

Yep, but don't worry Stanleyb, the Train Drivers, Doctors, Teachers, Civil Servants and benefits scroungers can afford this with their huge pay rises, additional holiday and first class or free travel .

They have achieved Financial Net Zero for which, us in the private sector are paying!!!

Not in Scotland and Wales, trouble is everybody wants to live in the South and London. If there was enough housing, then rents and prices would fall.

The cost of not putting them in prison is the epidemic you have today, shoplifting notably but also knife crime. If you never lock people up, what is the point of law, why don't we all just nick stuff? Paying them more is welfare and we know the cost of that is sinking the country.

Never mind the wealth gap, what about the efficiency and pension gap between civil servants and private industry employees. You've heard Tice on the enormous sums held in just 13 council pensions being more than the defence budget, how about pruning that and giving the same deal as private pensions? Also, when did you ever see a civil servant being dismissed for failure or economic ruin like say Woking council leaders inflicted. Rerate council tax perhaps to account for the band stopping at H and not fairly taxing mansions. How about preventing trusts from avoiding IHT, that may help?

The cost of prison is not surprising given the benefits, flat screens, computers, games machines, full gyms, pools, free education, you name it. Frankly, given the tax levied by labour, maybe we should all opt into this system and get our bills paid.

Of course but that's why you hold them for a long time, not day trade, a different ball game. At current dividend rate, compounded, you would double your money in 7 years. Also many shares act like an inflation hedge as they increase their prices in line and the effect can reflect onto the share price.

This is not always true, some companies cut dividends or go bust, a risk any stock buyer takes. By the way, that's all of us with private pensions, which are mostly invested in shares, although we'll diversified hopefully.

Your money would be getting 4% max in a bank.

Asia then, try far east trust HFEL, 10%+ divvy.

The prospect of deadline targets and fines for developers isn't going to go down well for the shares. I can also see them being robbed of land in their banks so Gov can meet the targets. About time someone sues the backside off Rayner.

Yet you've been diluted and taken a pay cut?

Haven't we been diluted and the dividend dropped? Doesn't seem positive at all!

I'm watching this and like to enter in the 90's, if possible. Confused as to the movements here on bid action and wonder if I may get the target price should PHP rebid for AGR.

Will this result in a reduction or cancellation?

It would be except I think the tender for 600m closed on 2nd April just before the market crashed.