RE: Longwait - How do we know you are not The Shen !!!!18 Oct 2021 00:55
donalb: "And PS 'too many numbers" (TM), for an educated man, you seem to be loosing the run of yours elf, with your recent rants about the Greens & their power & influence. Myself, I have choosen to not fly these 5 years, recently got rid of my big car & have cut my home energy use by 40%, using simple techniques & a little thought."
Good for you, but individual saintliness isn't going to cure climate change any more than is Ireland's solo demonstrations of virtue. Sure, there are genuine opportunities to reduce the carbon intensity of the economy, but exporting your carbon use to somewhere else such as we do with Chinese manufacturing isn't an example. Committing carbon hara-kiri isn't a good idea either. Such self-impoverishment is only a good idea if three things are true:
1) the alternative is an existential risk or, at the very least, comes with a very strong likelihood of even worse impoverishment. My reading of IPCC, IMF, and other documents is that that's not true (e.g. IMF documents on the likely loss of global GDP due to climate by 2100);
2) everyone else cooperates. Is China going to be generating 70% of power from renewables by 2030 like us? Not on your nellie. Then what's the point? The developing world is going to double energy usage by 2050 and, unlike pampered westerners, are not going to be fussy about how they achieve it. How fussy would YOU be if you lacked basics like electric lighting, or were dying from inhaling the smoke from burning cow dung, or living in a country of 90 million people who get 90% of their energy from burning wood? (cf. Congo). Most westerners would malfunction without microwave ovens, dishwashers and electric clothes dryers.
3) related to 1&2 -- your policies have to actually be effective. Wind power is not capable of replacing fossil fuel generation, and is only complementary to it if you triple your costs through 100% duplication of generating plant and add new transmission infrastructure on top. It is a truly horrible "solution" unless you believe that the remaining problems can be solved by regional grid interconnectivity and/or grid-scale electricity storage. I happen to believe in neither of those things, nor do I think it wise to be waiting on a technological silver bullet that there is good reason to think will never arrive.
That's why I think Green policies are stupid and ignorant, and bordering on evil. They depend on promoting untrue horror stories about existential threats from climate change. Which brings me to:
"Didnt Manmentia (TM) tell you that we are loosing the North Atlantic Drift, but why care !!!! Drill Baby Drill."
Yes he did, but he's wrong. Firstly, the Gulf Stream is NOT the same as the AMOC (Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current) despite even some "science" sites conflating the two. The Gulf Stream will not stop flowing unless the Earth stops spinning as it is driven by wind and Coriolis forces. (cont'd ...)