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One would thought so .... but more I follow the markets more I realise that the cash flow controls the SP not the fundamentals and currently US is 20% down UK follows and a sheep

LivintheDream good comparison with GSK it was a mental time and I did the same, kept buying at every significant drop to the point as it looked as being no end and falling into a black hole.

Fortunately the VC/ large investors need to make money and these drops don't help them in long run, so they intervene on active investor positions turning them around, same with Unilever as well

I know it is hard and when some here spread fear as well with absurd post rationalisations instead of looking to the CF across both markets UK/ US

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@Adastra there is no fundamental reason for SN to drop , just a cash flow retraction from the US market yesterday it dropped 8-14% the most of S&P just fear for further drop.

Same happened to Homesrve it dropped to 2015 level (thanks god that I didn't panic to sell) and it got a take private offer of +40% . The lack f liquidity in the market makes the market maker to drop SP so he could make a transaction fee.

It is so law no that it is nowhere to go just wait patiently.
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kernowlad this is your worry then you should sell and move on. Investing s definitely not for you.

Novo, Vulpes and Lion trust increased their stakes in April, insiders bought quite a bit. One should not confuse the SP drop because of fundamentals vs the market cash moves

Really, it is better for you to sell and move on if you believe that it will go "fall away into nothing"
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Notmyjob the traders some time get hysterical on cash - nothing to do with the logic or with the fundamentals - have a look to US today ALL S&P is down 6-17% each stock not a single one in green

Sheer hysteria and trades on derivatives - they have to sell to get the cash back

Hawkander Really????? you sold at 5y low..... you may have been desperate for money then.

We may need to brace ourselves at the US opening, hopefully back from the US cash flow impact

@Seaking1, I am in Synthomer, it is a special dividend 24p due to the 2020 high performance with plastic gloves, but it dropped sharply in 2022 due to high unsold stock. So the combination of the 2 made it so high, but the normal div is only 13p

Hope it helps

@kernowlad Do you actually read anything before you post or you are paid to make things up, the management bought shares not dumped them and some institutions increased their positions

I am always amazed how some posters mislead the boards

I should have put the statement sorry
Jefferies cuts Hargreaves Lansdown to 'underperform' (hold) - target 820 (1,100) pence

@theluckyguy Tragically what the hyenas of analysts do when a SP is down they put the price target even lower to make people panicky sale and to buy it on the cheap

They just put HL to 870 so I guess it will take some time until other will dare to get in and take the SP up

unhooked thanks for input. The question was if they could launch a hostile take over what would be the rules for the minority shareholders, at what price would they do it as they would try to push at the lowest?

If you claiming loom and doom ...... are right why Shredders took twice positions in 2 weeks to over 5%?

I guess you believe you are cleverer than them

Pls help as I panic...

I have not checked that Schneider Electric has 59% of the holding.

Isn't it a risk to take a hostile take over of the rest at the 6m average?

Any thoughts?

No clue at all I searched all morning but found nothing

Dunnieboy you display the same compulsive obsessiveness as TR64 re VIR

Everyone has to do their own research rather than being let be influenced of this constant push, just look to YTD . I can not believe the level your and TR64 trolling re VIR for the past 2 years

Does anyone know how much revenue % comes from RU?

shatter before you make your comments do you ever look to the wider UK market and the international one, or you just make it up as you do along?

kernowlad have a look to the rest of the SP even the shares with the best results reported today dropped 4% -7%

It is just hysteria, don't try to rationalise

Alessandro,

I look to this stock from a completely different angle, and this is why I haven't started to panic (yet).

There are 2 major shareholders the owner and BG one of the most experienced investment co's. In Jan a 3rd major investor took a position.

They are not in to loose so in the worst of the worst they will make a lot of acquisitions and sell it.

All the rest of the macro economics factors will affect everyone almost the same.

Please note that the drop in price is not proportional with the volume so some of the shorters will bombard with very very small sales just to create panic and to hit automatic stop losses. Always look to the volume of the sales. Same strategy is used when a major holder wants to create a position, it won't let the price to go up before it would fill its pockets.

cheers,