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From your link:

"In the March 2021 joint article, the group of leaders said:

The main goal of this treaty would be to foster an all of government and all of society approach, strengthening national, regional and global capacities and resilience to future pandemics. This includes greatly enhancing international co-operation to improve, for example, alert systems, data-sharing, research and local, regional and global production and distribution of medical and public health counter-measures such as vaccines, medicines, diagnostics and personal protective equipment.

The article acknowledges existing provision for a coordinated international response under the International Health Regulations, which would “underpin such a treaty”."

So nothing about governments surrendering their soverignty, putting the WHO in charge or forced medical procedures. The other link you added had nothing about that either. Just says that, essentially, international cooperation needs to be strengthened, as an extension of the existing cooperation framework, so nothing new. Also doesn't mention once emergency powers if a health emergency is declared, and is talking about prevention of the next pandemic, which implies the emergency hasn't occurred yet. You can't just post links to a thing existing and claim that as evidence that your claims of the nature of the thing are real. I can post a link demonstrating the existence of Australia, it doesn't mean Hitler and Elvis faked their deaths and live their now. Equally, the sensible establishment of a treaty to ensure cooperation and best practice to prevent another catastrophic pandemic doesn't mean the WHO is coming to force you to have an operation and the loss of democracy ad bodily autonomy.

"Unless you want to continue to be one of those claiming the war is not connected in anyway shape or form to the company."

To continue to do that, I'd have to first be doing it. I've never denied war is relevant to Poly: it's the main factor atm clearly. But that doesn't mean every aspect of the war is poly relevant news. Poly may also be hit by any global stock price slip, where all stocks get driven down, but I'm not going to post a blow by blow account of the decisions of the FED, Apple holding up the S&P or BBC articles citing rising inflation and a drop in the FTSE at large.

And as for why you: you're the only one I can see accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being Putin Propagandists and russian trolls.

"This is not Russia where inconvenient truths can simply be deleted with 15 year prison sentences."

Nope. This isn't Russia: it's the internet, where inconvenient spammers can be hidden by a filter. I tried suggesting you show a little introspection and give others the benefit of the doubt but apparently you prefer to call us all trolls and picture yourself the lone noble voice against a sea of russian collaborators on here. I won't filter you as sometimes you have something worthwhile to say and I don't want to get an unbalanced view... but mate, I understand why some do.

big-blue: i do not have an ADVFN account, am not a long term holder (I only bought in after the war started and am looking to sell as soon as I make a decent enough profit to chuck towards mortgage/house depost, depending how long it takes...
YET I don't disagree with this thread's OP. Your posts are unbalanced in favour of western military might, detached from the real risk assessments associated with nuclear weapons, idealistically blind to the need for political and economic pragmatism and, and this is arguably the most important, EXTREMELY REPETITIVE. You've said the Russian generals will call the war off any day now about 10 times. You post constantly about the Howitzer capabilities, and how Russia will be isolated for decades, and called for us to go into Russia and wipe it out as a country on more than 1 occasion.
If you are speaking the truth to Russian trolls they will shout you down, call you an idiot and question everything you say... But the same will happen when you go over the top with normal posters. You can call us delusional, but I'd ask you what you think is more likely: That this NON-RUSSIAN company board is filled with trolls who disagree with each other on most things yet unify against you, OR that you are just going on a bit much after making your point, and can't imagine the rest of us are bored of it. Not a personal attack, just some advice: change the record, stop posting 8 different links on the same point, and stop accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being an organised attack mob. Mate, your posts aren't that convincing that Russia or anyone else needs to pay trolls to shout you down.

big blue: pretty sure he meant they were not new in the RNS vs yesterday, not that they have always existed pre war...

If they're worse than the BB/FA spamming and arguing, it will almost be impressive.

If someone is selling, someone is buying on the other side though right?

At the risk of shouting in the wind, you do realise big-blue that a full on nuclear war between the west and Russia wouldn't leave people alive in Africa, Australia and South America just because they are not directly targeted right? I mean, between the radioactive fallout, dust clouds and atmospheric disruptions that would be produced by that many nukes going off, even ignoring physical damage and the collapse of interdependent economies , its hard to see how human societies of the form we have today could thrive anywhere on the planet's surface. I'm reminded of a famous scientist (I wanna say Einstein) who said, after seeing a nuclear test, "I don't know with what weapons world war 3 will be fought, but world war four will be fought with sticks and stones...".
Anyway, goodnight all.

@lpd, just been to see top gun maverick for fathers day. Assumed would be easy to book as been out for few weeks but only 12 seats left yesterday, and we took 6 of them! Not a fine word unfortunately as I don't live near one, but goes to show the film is still raking it in. Never know, could they extend its window?

Thank you for some sane posters making it worth sticking around! Anyway, all this talk of solar making me appreciate the lovely day outside. Gonna go get some fresh air and look away from what I hope will be a temporary drop following the BoE base rate hike.

"what's the point doing our bit if China and other actors are gonna still pump out co2?"
By that logic, why make peace an aim when other countries start wars? And why heat your house in winter when it'll still be cold outside? Forgetting climate change for a sec, replacing fossil fuels will improve air quality and reduce respiratory diseases: is that not good enough a reason if China is still pumping out CO2?
This board has been crazy at times with calls for WWIII and apparent nuclear weapons Intel from friends of friends, but now we've gone to climate change denial and covid conspiracies. Really? I'm checking out for a while for the sake of my sanity. Enjoy your tin foil hats fellas!

@panda apologies, just realised you said divis outside Russia and shares inside. Ignore my last post.

@bb UK gets ~24% of electricity from wind. That's a lot less than half.

@panda, I'm not an expert here but I don't think your idea would work like that. A rights issue would be all share holders double our shares say, and give cash to the company for them. The company now has better cash position so in principle our 2 shares combined are worth more than the 1 we held before. If the company just gave everyone with 1 share another share this would just be a stock split, with the total value of your 2 shares equal to the 1 share you had before. They need to actually issue cash to investors as just doubling number of shares, with no money in or out, would just half value of each share, so overall investors would be no better off.

Found this but that's about it for an Internet search. Will check tomorrow if I can buy through barclays or sell via 212 (they stopped buying month ago), just to get idea, not actually selling.
https://www.reddit.com/r/POYYF/comments/vcvbye/poyyf_suspended/

Ah gotcha. Thanks for the explanation plunder and the data JR.

I'm confused, what has their sec filling from 2011 got to do with them now?

Cheers Saga. Good news it seems and kind of you to take the time and effort to send and share.

Appreciated Celtocs. Thanks for sharing your hard work!

I've been accused of sitting on the fence by a few on here now but in my line of work it's encouraged to simply say "I don't know" when you don't know, rather than pick a side and argue a case from selective evidence. I'd rather just talk about facts and fundamentals than keep trying to convince people here to go to full war or lift sanctions. Not only do I not know which is right, noone on here has power to do either, so why argue and waste all our times? And yes, I know the war is relevant, but the delivery of each piece of kit or each ammo depot bombed is not telling us how the war will go, despite what people say.

Jotom I'm not sitting in the fence as I haven't actually stated my position. I'm actively deciding to not waste other people's time here with my opinions on what we should do as I
1). Do not have the latest intelligence reports,
2) do not have economic forecasts for our country or allies,
3). Am neither a military expert nor economics expert
As a physicist by profession, I'm not qualified to know what the best course of action is. As I'd be concerned about new investors believing I know what I am talking about when I don't. I don't think either economics or ideals will be the sole determiner of the war outcome: that hardly makes me a fence sitter.

To be clear, I wasn't just claiming sanctions don't work. I was highlighting an academic study which found only 33% of sanctions of a 40 year period resulted in the change they were trying to achieve and sometimes, particularly when the country being sanctioned controls state media, the sanctions can just feed into the narrative of evil outsiders and entrench positions. I'm not making specific claims about Russia, just saying it isn't as simple as we'll sanction them and that will work, especially when only about 15% of the world is taking part in the sanctions. And as for the microchip sanctions, that will mean no more smart bombs, but they seem to be doing a lot of damage with dumb artillery anyway so again, not so straight forward.