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I get 190p bid for 70k I assume buyer there for greater size if can find volume Can anyone test the 191p offer?

would love to see > 200p

great post TEADOBY on ADFN vs VAL : I see Van's been posting his misinformation and half truths on here again. He has a hidden agenda and carries a huge chip on his shoulder. That should be obvious by now! Trafigura doesn't control the company. Maybe they tried in the past but they gave up on that tack long ago. Why would the other three large shareholders allow this afterall? Last year a prepayment concentrate agreement was made with Transamine who of course aren't in any way connected to Trafigura. That's evidence that Trafigura aren't in control and there are others. If they were how come they couldn't stop Transamine who is after all a competitor . It's not difficult to work out after all Traigura have just one board seat and there are nine. Only 19 % of ATYM's concentrate is sold to Trafigura. The rest goes to Transamine and Louis Dreyfus who are completely independent. No extra profit is made by Trafigura as Van would have you believe. That's just nonsense. Why would the other three allow it after all. So why didn't Trafigura take more off-take when they became available if it's so lucrative? Because they weren't allowed to and Vans spinning a yarn there too as usual. That's why! ATYM's off-take contracts are pretty standard in general. Treatment and refining charges are based on the Asian benchmark and that is public knowledge. Penalties and shipments costs are more or less standard too although the smelters will always try to make a little extra money by dealing with the penalties through blending. The QP is the quote period. It means the average prices for a month are used for final invoice settling. It is just not true that ATYM may have negative QP as Van alleges. ATYM's QP�s are based on one month prices chosen in the following 3-4 months and it's always declared in advance. So for example ATYM can send a ship in early February and the buyer declares the QP being 3 months from the ships arrival which means that the average price of May is used to settle the price. Neither the buyer or seller knows what the price will be in advance. The off-takers trade the copper during this period and there are ways to insure against or mitigate any future negative settlements. Results at the plant now are better than the past so Vans allegations on that point are false and he's being mischievous in making them. It is also not true that the concentrates are worse, or more dirty, than the past operation. That's simply untrue again too. It may however be half-true to say that the grade was better in the past. That's because RT used a higher cut-off to �cream� the deposit. But that could well change in the future which Van chooses to selectively ignore. We should ignore all he says too! GLA

Morning If any sellers out there in EMED / ATYM , you can find buyer volume (again) today. I got a bid for 70k at 188p (dummy sell).

interesting volume ... whatever is being dumped is being bought up I can get a quote for 70 000 shares at 187p > �100000 (dummy sell) THERE IS A BUYER

surely announcement

vanhelsingjr2 Feb '18 - 15:52 - 10503 of 10504 0 1 0 QP is not open is fixed on the contract terms normally as the average of a month before or after shipment. You are mixing QP with final liquidation. You can define a qp as +1 mama which means monthly average of one month after shipment and make the liquidation three months later when both parties agree the analysis after a dispute and an arbitration. The problem here with qp is that according with off-take contracts the qp conditios are very favorable for the off takers penalising more than 595 us$ per ton of copper that is going directly to the pockets of off-takers. We had the same problem on 3Q/17. That means that we are working with negative QP which is unusual because the miner can not protect its position An we do not know the rest of the commercial conditions in the off-takes such as TC, RC, Premiums and penalties, PP if any, assumed freights... vanhelsingjr2 Feb '18 - 15:55 - 10504 of 10504 0 1 0 If Qp is so bad for miner, we can imagine the other commercial conditions.

management need to be fired

we are going onto Zinc upgrade sellers at 185p need to get back in, will pay 190

dvd : 23 Nov 2017 ex, 02 Feb 2018 pays Interim

why down? ex div?

I can sell 70 K at 186.35 .... LOL Someone smash the seller, give him the stock (not me)

what you waiting for

What happened to 185p bid Woops Who sold ?

Hit that bid before buyer gone

its trading on the bid price sellers are hitting the bid thus coming up as sells but there is a passive buyer on the bid, soaking up the sells

@sain b BID - OFFER you hit the bid , to sell you lift the offer, to buy you can buy on the bid, if someone hits you you can sell on the offer, if someone lifts you

@sain b BID - OFFER you hit the bid , to see you lift the offer to buy you can buy on the bid, if someone hits you you can sell on the offer if someone lifts you

I can only get 10k bid now for stock now Buyer getting smashed Who is up next to take a pop at 185p quick ...

come on mtf .... 01-Feb-1808:34:06185.0019,000Sell* 185.00190.0035.15k who is going to knock the bid out ? reload