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I'm with Barclays too. Let me know how you get on as i have little confidence of them automatically creating me a new holding even if/when GG get listed.

Let's give it some time to see what happens today. I assume there would be a nice LSE group for this kind of chat and we'll move over there at some point also?

Bear in mind cattleman the dilution of approx 76% i believe. Too many ways to try and work it out, so i guess we'll have to wait and see what the relisit price is, new share total, MC etc and see how it plays out.

Given that my NUOG is in my ISA online (Barclays) anyone know how share dealers will handle the new company, change in name, consolidation etc? My hope would be it nicely moves in to a normal account with the new name tradeable on day one. My expectation however, is some long convoluted process where they send you share certificates and you have to somehow get those back in to an online broker to trade and so on.....

Never sure why the trolls always sound so confident and assured of themselves, after just the only day saying 100% no relisting was ever going to happen. Tis a strange world some people live in.

I can't work out if the loss is 40:1, or 76%. Obviously 76% is preferred to the former and mentioned in admission document:

"Shareholdings immediately prior to Admission will be diluted by approximately 76% as a result of the implementation of
the proposals, assuming that the Placing Price will be 1p and that 200 million Placing Shares will be issued to raise the
minimum amount of £2 million pursuant to the Placing."

4,465,393,217 Existing Ordinary Shares have been issued at the date of this Document, all of which have been fully paid
up. Pursuant to the Placing, the Acquisitions and the Debt Restructuring, the Company proposes to issue up to a further
355,043,314 Consolidated New Ordinary Shares conditional on Admission, assuming that the Placing Price will be 1p and
that 200 million Placing Shares will be issued to raise the minimum amount of £2 million pursuant to the Placing. On
Admission, there will be up to 466,678,145 Consolidated New Ordinary Shares, all of which will be fully paid.

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So valuing the company at 4.6M market cap, if you take the new share total (accounting for 40 to 1 consolidation) at 0.1p

I see there is an AGM on 21st December in London

If we consolidate by 40, why does the price have to be 0.6p or 1p still? Can it not be higher. Guess I need to dig out new shares in issue versus a valuation calculation to see what a reasonable price would be for the new number of shares in issue, and go from there.

Been a while since i played with normal stocks, been focussed on crytpo. Which strangely in one year has made me more than all the oil and gas companies i invested in circa 10 years ago that largely all ended up going bust to some degree. Lesson learned! :-)

I know alot of talk about would we or wouldn't we re-list, but now we are, any thoughts on:

Initial list price (at a reasonable, fair and marketable value)
And short, mid and longer term potential SP?

I stand a chance of making some money back, but i can either sell and re-claim some, or hold out and maybe we get a little boost and i can make back some more. (I dare not talk of profit after 11 years here!!!!!)

Thanks

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Quick question, what happens to our shares in our stockbroking accounts with the delisting from AIM and listing to main listing?

For example, i can see my shares in a Barclays ISA. I could do nothing with them being suspended. It now says "delisting" next to it.

Will there be an automatic swap to Guardian shares? Will NUOG disappear and Guardian shares appear? (I assume outside the ISA wrapper?). Will we have to follow a process to get our Guardian shares visible online to buy/sell?

I really want to avoid Barclays sending my a physical certificate and then having to convert / add the shares back in to an online stockbroker from a physical certificate, if that makes sense?

One would hope it would convert online somehow, but i wouldn't be surprised if it was more complicated. There must be some mechanism where shares can be converted from NUOG to Guardian without a whole ton of effort for everyone? (Ideally before the new listing, or on the day, not weeks after it goes live. Wouldn't want to miss out on any of the action!).

Any ideas guys? Thanks!

Sounds like things are moving forward so that's positive. Start of a new chapter. Strange to think this started off as an oil company and i may end up making some money from a tax shell formed in to an ship anti-piracy company!

Anyone heard anymore about NEW?

I did email the email address below to get added to the distribution list, but i have received no confirmation or emails so far.

Thanks!

Hi all. Just catching up with this one after many years. I started here with ENEGI oil back in 2010! Then the ups and downs of NUOG. Seems like there might be some light left here after all these years. Just been reading up on the proposal and possible listing. So is this a move from AIM to the LSE? Sounds interesting and it's not like many of us have much of a choice if we want to recoup or make some money :-) Looking forward to seeing what happens.

So as mentioned before, i'm an old Arian holder, average 75p! So not expecting much here, in terms of getting my money back. Although, if i did spend 1k, it would drop my average from 75p to 10p. (Or 2k would drop it to 7p).

Has anyone run any numbers on the various prospects, silver value, future plans etc of Alien with a goal of estimating a market cap and share price in the future on certain successes? What is people's view on short, medium and long term here in terms of Mcap/SP?

Just for discussion purposes really. Would love to get excited about a silver play again, but need to do some more e research etc. Thanks!

Out of interest, do any of you guys also hold your own physical silver also? I have around 320 ounces. Mainly bought the bulk back in the early 2010's when i was also positive on Arian Silver! But in recent years, concentrated more on silver sets, such as the Lunar Series, which takes 12 years to complete a set, as 1 coin per year. I like the idea of holding physical and shares. How do you guys split your portfolio? As well as cash, some shares and physical silver, i also do a bit if Crypto.

What was worse for me, is that Arian snatched defeat from the jaws of victory so to speak, just about to turn a corner and they didn't have enough cashflow or whatever. I try not to relive the nightmare :)

At least there seems to be some life here. Will do some research to familiarise myself with what's going on and future prospects etc.

Hi everyone. I'm an old Arian Silver shareholder. I'd pretty much written off my Arian Silver investment many years ago. I'm trying to get back up to speed to what Alien Metals is up to these days, as it appears from quick glance to have turned a corner somewhat in the last 6-12 months.

I think i need a price of something like 75p to break even :-) Good times hey?

Anyway, just wanted to say hi, as I try and catch up on what Alien Metals is up to.

You never know, will a silver bull run and such I could make something back one day, or maybe i'll even average down, if i'm feeling brave! Ha ha. (£1000 invested would leave me only needing 11p to break even! Not that i have a spare 1K)...

Matt

Lets hope so. The fall from 1p since the New Year has felt a bit over done. Feels like strong foundations are being set for some deals and a business model that can expand. Of course i wish we'd got GHS up and running and any other kind of deal over the years, but GTW seems like it might just be the thing that turns this company in to a success (and allow those other assets to be properly developed as well).

And because i know the trolls love to bring it up - #excitingtimes

Hopefully this new forum will be followed up by some positive news so we can see what Gas2Wire is really about and how these deals will work, what value they will bring etc. I'd take one deal for now, enough to prove the model and stop the need for any further placings. And see how it goes from there. Although I wouldn't say no to two deals in quick order!

Here's an extract from that post from October last year. Add this GTW... for which i have no clue how to try and value a deal personally:

"...Some previous calculations as to the potential. After all isn't that why we are all here? Potential.... if there was none, why invest, so we've all seen something here. If it comes good, we'll all be much better off. If not, then that’s the roll of the dice we all take.

#NUOG Brazil Producing field valuation
Assume 10,000 bopd
Revenue £207m
Prod costs £82m
Loan/cost recovery £19m
Net revenue after tax £79.4m shared between equity holders
50% to MFDevCo
£19.9 million to NUOG less op costs £18.9m earnings
Mcap £377m
SP 27.9p

Change up or down depending on your research and risk approach.

Then there is GHS, GHS farm in, H&D, MF deals 2, 3 and 4..... Slow progress yes, but if MF deal 1 is as big as we think, we'll all be happy we waited...."

Credit to Seadog i believe for the maths a while back, but even my amateur back of a fag packet calcs work out roughly the same.

One deal... is all its going to take to transform things here - and from there we'll steam roll i do truly believe.