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NC

''So a near back in, slowly staggered deals to ensure the EU, and have us where 'they' want us''

Complete nonsense - a country is either a member of the EU or it is not

NC

''Lti would STILL say, if a 'back door' deal was done for us to have very very much closer future links to the EU, even if it mirrored that of us 'still being in' that because it would not be classed as the UK physically rejoining the EU 'he' was right.''

The only adjustment that will be made if any, is an improvement to the trade deal if beneficial to both parties.

S123

looking good at the moment to reach the 4 Billion bought and cancelled milestone

Nom

''And you need to appreciate that it might rejoin some time in the future''

It is not on the agenda - the UK is not in the EU - get over it.

Car

'' has the CEO recently been buying or selling his shares ''

''if he’s buying, that means the SP will likely go up. If this banker is selling, that means the SP will likely go down, it’s as simple as that!''

I am afraid it is not as simple as that. A board member may simply be liquidating shares obtained under share schemes when allowed to do so.

Purchases by board members may give a bit of confidence to other shareholders to follow suit but I am afraid that board members do not control the valuation of Lloyds banking group. The market decides on a daily basis.

S123

The average purchase prices at the moment are certainly lower than we could have hoped for at the start of the 2023 buyback. Unfortunately it doesn't help investors who are in a hurry to sell Lloyds, but for some reason refuse to sell at anything below a set price, even though many of them think they could put the money to better use elsewhere.

If I hated Lloyds and had to sell at a 30% capital loss, I would if I thought I could make that 30% back more quickly elsewhere rather than wait year after year, just to get Lloyds capital back.

Gs

''I merely pointed out to IggyPop that the UK's position to rejoining the EU would be very different to another country joining for the first time. Just facts, which you claim to like.''

The fact is the UK is not joining the EU

The facts are that the EU have their rules when it comes to becoming a member of the EU.

The fact is your 'Just facts' about the UK being a special case is in fact a figment of your imagination, with no basis in fact.

I think it is about time you got over the fact that the UK is NOT in the EU

Gs

' they haven't tried to rejoin.''

The UK is not joining the EU

'' So the EU/UK could agree whatever fudge they wanted''

The UK is not joining the EU

''Of course, we know we would lose many of the specific benefits we had''

The UK is not joining the EU

''You're list sounds horrible though, it's almost as though you're trying to stoke....what's the word?.....fear, into people? We could call it Project Fear.''

The UK is not joining the EU

get over it

Gs

''LTI telling the world he is right and everyone else is wrong! For fk sake man, grow up!''

I have given the facts, not opinion - a typical response from someone ' who posts complete nonsense and cannot stand facing the facts.

The UK is not going to be joining the EU.

get t over it

Ram

''ITS BEEN 44 TO 53 SINCE ALMOST GOOD 4 YEARS NOW''

No - it has been below 24p - it was available to you to purchase.

It was in the 60's less than 4 years ago, when you could have sold.

It is all about choices - you decided to 'invest' in Lloyds the same as NC did.

Tesco up again

3i Group at yet another all time closing high

HSBC up

UBS driver still chugging along , picking up the discarded

Car

''the Lloyd’s low SP is actually reflecting ''

the value the market places on Lloyds

''My prediction of Lloyd’s sub 40p is coming along nicely, however slowly''

That would be excellent for buyback programmes, but a market cap of below £26 Billion based on what?

Bj

Sentiment has been knocked back by the recent bank failures, and has had the effect that I had hoped for - keeping the share price down for longer for the benefit of the share buyback.

The market can always find an excuse/reason to not yet be ready to re rate banking stocks . Along with the bank failures, there will be 'concerns' with if increased levels of provisions will be required as the UK grapples with getting inflation under control.

Blb

''THEIR PROFITABILITY ?????ARE YOU KIDDING ME''

NO - no kidding - Lloyds make good profits

''WHATS THE FECKING POINT OF MAKING PROFIT WHEN THE SHAREHOLDERS GET THE CRUMBS OFF THE TABLE.''

An investor can current get double digit returns - that cannot be said from most stocks.

''WE HAVE NOT HAD A FAIR RETURN BASED ON PROFITABILITY FOR ALL THE YEARS''

Lloyds had years of ppi to pay for - an investor should now be happy with having double digit returns available.

''ALSO GIVEN THIS DROP WHY DONT THEY SWEEP UP ALL THE SHARES NOW AT THIS APPARANT BARGAIN PRICE AND COMPLETE THE BUY BACK.''

You are totally clueless, are you not?

''BUY BACK HAS DONE NOTHING FOR THE SP ABSOLUTELY NOTHING''

The sole purpose of the buyback is to reduce share capital - the market decides the value of Lloyds

BLB

You are a total waste of space .

'' WHAT ABOUT THE BILLIONS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE MARKED, BILLIONS post 2008 BILLIONS IN DOUBLE DIGIT BILLIONS. We are recovering only close to 3BN only 3BN so far.

Go do your research and post HOW MANY BILLIONS WERE ADDED POST THE CRASH, it might take a while cause there a BILLIONS''

How long have you been investing ?

I would like to think that most Lloyds investors are aware that Lloyds merged with HBOS using paper and that more paper was issued to HMG and more paper issued in a rights issue.

The buybacks in recent years have reved so far about 10 Billion shares - will be about 12 Billion at the end of the current buyback

''PROGRESSIVE SHARE PRICE POLICY LOL LOL lol, this does not even come close to the DECREASING SHAREPRICE POLICY''

The market determines the value on a daily basis - the BOD's have not got a policy in place that would automatically decrease the value of Lloyds.

''Its the opposite of the Double Gazing sales man - YOU BUY ONE YOU GET ONE FREE. in that YOU BUY ONE YOU GET RIPPED OFF.''

Grow up

NC

''And telling all, that 'buybacks' are the 'answer' when billions have been spent already, you are IF truly believing such, saying, that the current share price would be EVEN LOWER without having such''.

the answer? to what?

the sole purpose of the buyback is to reduce share capital.

The BOD's have decided (rightly in my view) that investment in Lloyds shares at way below NAV is of great benefit to longer term shareholders.

The current market cap is about £30 Billion - what do you think the price per share would currently be with 10 Billion more shares on the market?

''inflation''

I am not aware of the capital 'invested' in ordinary shares being indexed linked.

'' I have proof at the end of everyday in the closing price''

proof of what? - that the market decides on the value of Lloyds - I think everyone knows that.

NC

''with all those hoped for by most, milestones passed and STILL a poor performance''

I totally disagree - the current profitability of Lloyds means that they can now make double digit returns to shareholders - how can that be classed as a poor performance.

NC

''An 'investment' should give the investor a better return by investing, not 'having' to gamble their capital by trading.''

An investor IS gambling with capital by 'investing'.

Strange and wrong thinking of yours that purchasing shares and holding is not gambling but making pound cost averaging purchases and pound realisation averaging sales is gambling.

Blb

''your in cloud cuckoo land''

NO - I have given you the facts.

You obviously form part of the 'some' -

Today 11:23

My view is that some investors get frustrated that other investors are willing to give up their shares at a price much lower than they would want them to be giving them up at.