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ooops sorry chartist whilst i disagree with you from time to time i assure you that last post/question was aimed at fastfood lol my bad. :) He/she is becoming a stuck record type annoyance what ive found over time is that empty vessels make most noise. bol

do you deliberately mis-read and misquote or are you a bit of a moron ? may seem a little direct a question but im genuinely curious.

hc division and satsuma 0.8 million customers , vanquis bank/credit cards 1.6 ,illion and car finance customers 46k customers so not sure where you getting your numbers from but these are from provident website here ... https://www.providentfinancial.com/our-businesses/

"Future success will depend on diversification into other Financial Services i.e. Insurance " EVEN AFTER THE GOVERNMENT CRACK DOWN ON THE % PAYDAY LENDERS COULD CHARGE this business is a massive cash cow plain and simple. maybe they will diversify but it will be the cash river from the lending division that funds it and the dividend !!

If as i do you think this share is being supported to allow prov to get its house in order by the large holders,what is the point in simply stabalizing the price ? far better to support and encourage a rise and fall scenario,buy at 8.80 sell @ 920/30 that way you still buy time for prov and you can average down a little with every cycle.Now im not suggest market manipulation but if your going to support a share to prevent hysteria and short selling form wreaking havoc you would be a fool not to if you like day trade with a few hundred lk shares.

thats peanuts compared to many companies, net earnings per share 350 mil was it ? gross 1.3 bil ? even a modest turn around of lets say 50% of this puppies former glory just for arguments sake would mean 6/700 mil gross 175/200 mil net which of course is a lot less than before but as an eps its well above �1.30 per share net !! companies with that kind of regular ongoing income stream pay dividends at 2x cover so 60p to 80p per share and at these prices thats a very good ongoing return. Oh and i know that before divi will be paid again the price wont be " at this price " so before someone deliberatley misunderstands or before the intelectually challenged mention it im refering to future dividends in relation to the price If you bout at these prices and held OK ??

glee means a kind of pleasure! 6 to 10% shares on loan ? ok which is less than 10% of the institutional holding ??so logic would suggest that some of those shares are on loan from the big holders BUT that the large institutional holders are content with this share fluctuating for the time being but wont allow a large hysterical fall !! their traders can average down over time but only if there is periods of climb as well as decline !! No im still convinced that the big players are supporting in the 8.80s and avaeraging down in the 9.20's but only a hunch nothing scientific.

have the decency to try to keep the glee from your posts :) look at my earlier post total in instittional hand is well over 60% this will do what they want it to do! all us plebs can do is hope to guess correctly and im guessing it will not be allowed to fall unless they want it to !!! bol

yeah im already in again a little gigher than usual :( thought the base bounce had risen somewhat hey ho still content to wait for the 9.28 sell order to be triggered :) bol

Ouch chartist.... a chartist an elitist and a snob lmao you go girl :) Statistically low income housholds are the largest customer base for "payday lenders" unemployed struggle to pass the " milkability tests " :)

He least disingenuous part of that post was the " I am still waiting in the wings for low �8." I am holding some and trading some of this stock, and like others have done so a few times over last month or so,however holding AND trading prevent me from being tempted to ramp/deramp for selfish motive's They go up im happy they fall a little i trade simple.The puzzling thing about your post fast food is you claim to be waiting for "low �8" so lets take 8.20 as a low �8 this is a �9 share so 8.20 is less than a 10% fall,you deramp claiming to be waiting for an entry point but on many occasions the intra day swing has been over 5% the lows of 8.80 the highs of 9.3/9.4/9.2 etc.I confess its a puzzle you could easily have traded this stock a few time whilst "waiting for low �8" and probably obtained an average at or bellow your desired entry point by now. Add to that the fact that were this share to drop to the low �8 there is a distinct possibility of another panic/short selling drop way bellow that SOOOO you deramp claiming your possiiton but the logic does not stack up.My view is either sour grapes for missing the trading several opp's the last month or more likely in my view you have a short possition.My opinion based on logic and nothing more.Dishonest claims at objectivity to hide true subjective motive are and always have been my least favorite type of attempted manipulation. BUT Good luck anyway because as has been said often on here, even a modest turnaround will at these prices make this cash cow an on going goldmine, woody knows it,as do the other large holders and i am pretty certain of it as well.These guys think so too...Invesco Asset Management Ltd.as of 02 Oct 2017 31.22m 21.06% Woodford Investment Management Ltd.as of 13 Oct 2017 29.79m 20.10% Schroder Investment Management Ltd.as of 31 Aug 2017 8.23m 5.55% Marathon Asset Management LLPas of 23 Feb 2017 7.14m 4.82% M&G Investment Management Ltd.as of 23 Feb 2017 6.44m 4.35% Deutsche Bank AG (Broker UK)as of 31 Oct 2017 6.05m 4.08% Jupiter Asset Management Ltd.as of 23 Feb 2017 5.17m 3.49% UBS AG (Investment Management)as of 22 Sep 2017 4.43m 2.99% Aberdeen Asset Managers Ltd.as of 23 Feb 2017 3.97m 2.68% Legal & General Investment Management Ltd.as of 02 Oct 2017 3.44m 2.32%

nah reckon this will rise tomorrow :) then again im in already so i would say that wouldnt i ? lol gla

Fwiw i have thought for a while that woody and the other big fish are supporting this at 8.80's ish levels and gently reselling into the 9.30's because they dont want to have to declare an extra % ownership. woody fund holders might not like that for one.The thing i hadnt really considered is that if the above is correct woody also get to average down by a fraction of a % every cycle !! win win for him at the moment i guess,so long as prov get their proverbial together eventually, which i fully expect they will. gla

well im back in after playing with playtech for a couple of profitable days :) didnt get the 8.82 i was after but close enough.Trading pattern is erratic but not odd as ive said before support from the big fish around this level and shorters have their fun and traders take profits around 9.30 ! so long as it doesnt buck the trend while im in or out respectively im ok playing with this one a little until news of progress arrives.

still we have broken the 8.20 overhang and the Us traders will be active soon so lets hope liek yesterday we get a nice mid afternoon lift :)

If you had a large short on this stock right now would you want to A. go for lunch or B.still have a possition when the US markets open ??? lol i know my answer.. sandwitch at my desk and hell no. gla

Must be expensive and a lossing battle holding this back! ! once it breaks free and a few possitions closed i expect a bit of a surge ! just my opinion/hope obviously

I did buy 500 but not really gonna sell @ 8.40 jst being provocative lol mid nines in a week or so maybe :)

sold short did it take to push this down a miserly .75% ??? 200k and all hoovered up for the most part, watch what happens when they close those possitions later ! :) gla just added another 500 they can have em back later @ 8.40

Exactly way undervalued even if all unreg mkts excluded which they are certainly not, they may experience a reduction due to tighter gambling regs in malaysia but by no means can they be excluded.Looks like the naked shorters and possibly a few legitimate shorters are having one last throw of the dice this morning.Lets hope theres a little bonfire eh ? gla