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Couldnt agree more Todster

Ha, well none of its ground breaking is it?

The council contract is nice and is what they should be releasing...

Is 3 broadbands in pilot shops with 4G backup relevant? Hardly groundbreaking is it?

100 Mobiles is nice to, Id rather they were at a stage where that was normal business and not RNS worthly.

Theyve also missed whos billing it all BT/DMSL, or Toople? If BT, then there will be a nice commission payment upfront and then thats it, nothing more for the rest of the contract.

I actually brought 4.5k ish yesterday as I decided it couldnt go any lower, good timing really.

Not sure thats a workable opportunity,

Things like councils are based on a number of things
1. Price. circa 40 to 70% of a tender score is price based.
2. Reference sites - Toople dont have any
3. Product

Heres the issues with council and public sector.
1. Price is key, the problem is, Toople don't own a product, they resell Gammas horizon, or BT cloud. You cant compete with Gamma on a public tender, when you have to buy their product at more than they'l offer it to a council on.
2. Reference sites - They don't have any large sites for reference which will have the same sorts of security concerns, ISO requirements etc. Before you say well they have a 10 restaurant deal etc, a council works in a completely different way.
3. Product - Reselling a product means your stuck, you can only do what you can do. What happens when the tendering organisation eg a council, wants an app, or wants an integration with something, or wants the system to work in a certain way... they cant do it.

Winning work of councils etc is just unrealistic for the way Toople is setup, Even Andy says the focus is on Micro SME.

Micro SME is sub 10 employees eg thinks like dentists, corner shops, retail units. Thats the focus NOT a 200 or 500 seat opportunity.

You cant make wild claims of 20% of the SME market, and then resell your competitors products, who has the market share if you resell BT or Gamma... Is it you, BT or Gamma... Id argue it was the person who bills it, which is DMSLs case is BT...

Theres no takeover here, stop dreaming.
Lots of big sells. People getting out?

Nope... Wierdly you did, then you didn't, then all of a sudden you've changed your tune and your back in.

Just trying to stop people falling for the ramps and getting trapped.

Suspect you'l make 10-20% over the next month as the ramp finalises, prior to the dilution thats coming.

thats never made any more... infact loses £2 for every £1 it earns....

Nope, I think the flat over the last 5 years was a better investment.

I didnt miss the point, whats changed in a week

So its no longer a buy... It's now a sell? All because one man said the same as you?
Not because of the all the factual points posted, or the history of a share?

Stretchum... why the negativity?

Doesnt zak agree with you? Last week you said "This will double next week."

Oberlon are part of the pump....

Not trying to crash the share price perse.

The issue is most RTOs the target is bigger than the shell, here we have a shell with an mcap at £7 million and net assets at circa £2m.

This means theres no option to bring in a smaller organisation as it would just be an acquisition not a RTO.

BBB you know as well I do, when people say

"Takeover coming" they mean Toople being acquired...

"Acquisition coming" they mean Toople acquiring.

Toople may do an acquisition, but it wont be acquired.

None of which are major wins... none of which stem the tide of the loses.

Boparan was a FTTC and voip contract... FTTC is what £40 a month per site? 10 sites... £400... £100 of GP.

TOCA... a leased line... £400, £100 of margin, Not even live yet because it said Summer 2021...

Where are these huge deals? Company changing sized deals? Winning a leased line for a new startup is not news worthy. Telcos of all sizes do that on a daily basis.

When does the share price hit 0.4p... thats a mcap of £16 million. For a business that does £4 Million of Revenue and £2m of losses..

Jungmana,

In Jan you predicted 0.4p was coing soon when it was 0.14 and the ramp was on... the following day it tanked and dropped by over 50% over the next month or so

By issuing new shares for an acquisition their mcap increases but the share price stays stagnant. 0.4p is a ludicrous valuation for a business with no assets, £4 Million of turnover and £2m of losses.

AGM approved the issuing of £4.2 Million of nominal value shares?
Nominal value of 0.0667 pence each.

6 billion shares?

Where do you go from there, as I said, sit tight, when it pumps, get out quick, dont buy more on the way up.

Wareing... short term, id say you'l make money, they need to spike it prior to any dilution..

Why would Oberon Investments invest?

Simple.
Oberon Investments or Baskerville Capital plc as they should be known, are represented by their financial adviser Novum Securities...

From the Baskerville Admission document.
Novum, as the Company’s independent financial adviser, has provided formal advice to the
Independent Director regarding the Acquisition (of Oberlon)

Who's Novum Securities... Well they would be the broker for Toople too.
Who do you think brought the 1 Billion shares from the Carters from on the cheap? Line the dots up. Oberlon
Who gets paid for another fund raise? Novum do...
Is their powers to do a fund raise.. yes following the AGM
Do they need to do a fund raise... yes still losing mega money
Do they want to do a fund raise below the level of the last one (0.11p) nope, hence let's release some TR1 documents, get the rampers ramping, then boom share issue, price collapses, people stung again.

Stay in it, but when your 10 or 20% up, get out, don't hang around.

I mean that doesnt answer the question at all does it?

Show me an example of a small little PLC being taken private...

It simple isnt going to happen,
Say it was true, the share price rises on speculation and the mcap to what, 5 Million, 10 Million?
for a business that turns over £4 or 5 Million, loses money, has stopped using the hugely hyped up software it claimed was a game changer and doesn't own its customers anymore because its reseller BT...

Then compare that to recent deals in the same market. PBX Hosting this week sold for £4.5 Million, has 32,000 users on their hosted platform, profitable and has 100s of resellers doing the work for them.

Now ask yourself which you'd pay £5 million for?

Banding around take over comments is ramping at best, fraud at worst.

When your called out, you reply with DYOR.... thats not a get out for ramping.

Il try again without the spelling mistakes
Big Boy, The suggestion is Toople will get taken over, not acquire others... so the acquisition of DMSL is irrelevant. Fancy trying again?

Big Boy, The suggest is Toople will get taken over, not acquired... so the acquisition of DMSL is irrelevant. Fancy trying again?

Redbox... Whys it bitter and twisted or warped, when someone uses examples and evidence to show facts, yet when someone randomly posts these, its fine?
Takeover perhaps???
Something maybe brewing!
Ticker just moved up !

missilee has posted about tick ups in price for the past few months, it was .098 then.

Isn't it amazing despite missilee being down, they are so so positive when others buy shares? They brought 14 Million (or so they claimed) at 0.0898, and its apparently been ticking up since?

New investors here need to see both sides, not just the blind ramping.... just because you don't like the skeletons in the closet, and want to ramp it, just ignore me if you wish, il still sleep at night..

Who would buy it?
What examples of other deals can you use as a comparison?

Let's indulge your logic for a bit and see how it plays out?

Stretchum, This wont get taken over, theres a lot of Telcos in the market at the moment available that bill their own customers, are profitable and have a good management team, Toople for what it is, and given the way the market works wont get acquired.

They no longer bill, preferring to take upfront comms on BT deals which will at least increase revenue for the short term
No long own the customer, BT do
Still lose stupid amounts of cash

Please stop ramping without proper sources