RE: Dividend news please13 Nov 2020 15:00
I was in a ski chalet, maybe twenty years ago.
Somebody mentioned that Lloyds was paying 7% dividend for years.
It was a three star half board deal, and I always booked last minute at extreme discount,
so it wasn't a gathering of stock market gurus.
Still, on 7% dividend, he would have got most of his money back, by the time the government bailed Lloyds out.
On the other hand, you probably got 5% fixed rate in an ISA, with no risk, in those days.
Deposit on cash is now dead. I am not even bothering with these Regular Savers.
At 5%, it was worth doing, not now.
The stock market is the place to go for some meaningful returns now.
Unlike my lecturer, who was saying you should not base your investment decisions on tax regime,
I am all about tax saving. In particular, you have extra tax allowances for interest, dividend and capital gains, on top of the personal allowance.
Interest
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Bizarrely, you can get £5,000 in interest, tax free, if your "income" is low.
If you don't work, e.g. you are retired, or got a good settlement for personal injury, you were in a good place when interest rate was 5%. Put £100k down in a 5 year fixed rate, and get the interest tax free.
Now, you need ~£1m to get £5,000 a year, so nuts to that.
The bog standard £1,000 Savings Allowance is all you need now, to mop up any stray interest, like Santander 123 (0.6% up to £20k)
This does mean that you need to take that £100k, and put it to work.
Dividend Allowance
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£2,000 tax free.
Tax band Tax rate on dividends over the allowance
Basic rate 7.5%
Higher rate 32.5%
Additional rate 38.1%
Let us say you get 5% dividend, on £100k that is £5,000, so the first £2,000 is tax free,
then you pay 7.5% (versus 20% income tax) on £3,000. £225 in tax.
The problem is how to make use of the £12,300 tax free in a relatively risk free way.
Bed and breakfast is pointless, as the 30 day rule nullifies it.
There is an interesting work around though. Vanguard has some retirement funds that are virtually the same.
So, you sell Target Retirement 2035 Fund today, and buy Target Retirement 2040 Fund tomorrow.