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The problem now is that those who don’t really understand what this means for shareholders (the blind optimistic few on here) will see a slight tick and think it’s an opportunity to get back in. In reality it will tick but then drop further, little tick then drop further again. This will happen all day as more of your money is taken from you until an announcement of that the dilution will be and a sudden drop to around 3p.
It’s over. It’s great for the workers as short to medium term they get to keep their jobs and feed their family. It’s a disaster for anyone invested and I really feel for those that are in at 40p-80p that we’re hoping for a miracle. A lot of people will have lost fortunes and it could be because they couldn’t pull the wool from their eyes, listen to an opposite view and see the bigger picture.
Look like the chance to get out at 9p is gone, maybe you might get a chance at 8p, soon that will be gone and it will be trying to get out at 7p

Yes that’s exactly it. The shareholders were always going to wiped out here. The bids for the airline were always going to be low and the talk of a ‘bidding war’ was complete rubbish.
I can’t actually believe Gareth and yourself are still trying to take positives from this. 9p is an unbelievable chance to get out and save some of your money as this will end up towards 3p.
Also worth noting that the change in wording from shareholders to stakeholders was another clue for those shareholders who aren’t completely deluded by thinking this will be a ‘bagger’.

If this is true then as predicted the shareholders are screwed

https://news.sky.com/story/thomas-cook-close-to-unveiling-fosun-rescue-deal-11761378

How is Jet2 a completely different model ?
I think it’s a very valid point that TCG used the heatwave last year as an excuse for people not travelling abroad, but it didn’t affect Jet2

As you will see from my posts, this has been a strong sell for me for a while now. I believe the real value should be around 15-20p and said a few days ago that good news from Dart saying late bookings were good would really help this.
I would say this should be around the 20p mark by next Thursday

I bought in yesterday in anticipation of good results from Dart, will sell next Thursday close of play.
I have many friends who are in between 40p and 90p. You only have to go back months and all of those investors are in up to their neck

Tell that to the majority of shareholders who are in at an SP of between 4 and 8 times the current price.

Another set of fantastic results, especially given the current climate with issues such as brexit, currency, oil price etc.....

https://investegate.co.uk/dart-group-plc--dtg-/rns/final-results/201907110700041342F/

Toon - I have been saying this is going south for a while now (40p) and I think medium term it will be even more of a bloodbath for shareholders as the bids will be nowhere near the amount some are expecting. Don’t listen to the people who say this will be £1 as it’s complete fantasy.

There is something significant this week that could help you. Dart(Jet2) announce their year end results on Thursday. They will post very good profits once again but the thing to look for will be forward and late bookings since the year end cut off date. If this is looking very good and they have significantly increased due to poor weather, people ignoring brexit etc, then you can say it should be the same for TCG when they release results and news next Thursday. You may get a share increase price to 15p, maybe a max of 20p but at least it may give you a reasonable price to get out if you so wish.
At that point, if you are a believer that there is a bidding war and the bids will be high, you hold. If you don’t then you sell at not too much of a loss.

Jeez Gareth, do you know what happened with the Flybe takeover. If you think that was a success for shareholders you need to sell your shares now and never invest again.

On which part fantastist?
I have questioned those who were saying ‘this will be 40p by friday’ etc. The bids are priced in which most rampers can’t accept and the price should be between 15-20p. I have said the bids will be very underwhelming and disagreed with this who are saying £1 a share which is utter tosh !
I would call that balance...

Jedclampit / Applegarth is sadly on another planet here. If this was going to fetch £1 a share short term it would be nowhere near 14p as it is now. The valuations he uses are absurd, I do imagine though that he’s been in this from a high price so can understand the scale of ramping.
It is however a little unfair as it needs balance and he will attack anyone with a bit of reality . IMO

The only people whos opinions have been wrong so far are the rampers such as yourself. You can’t accept the opinions of those who have been correct since this was 40p a long time ago.

Surrey - Castiger was predicting 180p a week or two ago, just do the opposite to what he says is the smart play

No it doesn’t.
Imagine this then....this idea you have about Fosun buying the whole lot with an agreement to sell the airline parts on. In your imaginary scenario, all TCG planes would be grounded as they wouldn’t have an AOC recognised. EASA wouldn’t just let it be transferred across to a Chinese company and the EU wouldn’t allow a Chinese company to have an airline flying and bases within the EU. Fosun would then have to negotiate to sell each part of the airline seperatley and after how ever long that takes there is no staff left as they have all jumped ship.
The airline HAS to be sold in separate parts and non to Fosun

No, they can’t do that as it would still be against EU comp law for the sale to go through regardless of circumstances

Fosun are not allowed to buy the whole business, it’s worrying that so many are invested here because of the ‘sale’ but don’t know the basic rules of the sale.
Also , the rule about the highest price in the last 12 months doesn’t all,y as they aren’t buying the whole business

Yes, shareholders come at the back of the queue unfortunately

It’s probsbly you that needs to research to be fair, you were bleating this would be 30p by close of play Monday just gone, another delusional dreamer that I hope people don’t listen too

But you made yourself a millionaire didn’t you so it won’t really bother you, £200,000 pocket money !?