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Oh and I totally agree about the other person you referred too.
He is a lost cause and enjoys peoples pain and not worth the time and effort.
@ Strummer,
I do not hold any grudges against Dj even if my posts makes people think I do.
I was just trying to get through to him that now is not the time.
I followed his posts with a lot of interest for a few years and blame him in no way for this mess.
You have to admit Strummer that the bit about Narcissistic personality disorder fits him like a glove lol.
I really do wish everyone here all the best and joking aside if anyone is thinking about jumping don't be ashamed to say.
Lets put it another way in the hope someone can get through to you.
Some may have lost a lot of money on here.
More than they could afford to lose or think they can afford to lose.
Remember The Great Depression of the 1920s/30s?
People jumping off buildings.
People commit suicide for many reasons but finances have to be one of the big reasons.
When someone is thinking that way you would always tell them that things are not as bad as they seem and things will get better.
If you can stop them making that choice the moment after the reason for it has happened then the chances are in 3 months time they would not still be thinking that way.
Hope even if it turns out to be false gives people time to move on as the realization of their loss is gradual and not all of a sudden.
You tell some poor sod he has lost his life savings and no chance of ever seeing it again and he jumps.
You tell them there is a small chance of getting it or something back they don't jump, they wait.
6 months time they find out they have indeed lost all.
BUT it is 6 months down the line and their life might not be in the same mess as it was 6 months before so even with the loss they still see a way ahead.
What I say there maybe total rubbish to some but with things like what is going on here that is the way my brain works which is why I find it odd that you want to destroy any hope of anyone who has lost money here.
I really do hope you never get to work for the Samaritan's.
I would really hate to be the one thinking of jumping and they sent you to talk me down.
Hell I'm sure you would just push me off the ledge.
Now you can see why I say Narcissistic personality disorder?
Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others.
Taken from google and come on Dj, whoever wrote that must have met you.
Even if it false hope then soon enough people will have to face up to their loss.
Why do you feel the need for it to be YOU to take hope away from them even if it is false?
You seem to take pride that you have lost more than most.
What you lost is profit from other shares.
I have lost 20 grand not from any shares that I sold for profit but from money I was putting in from my bank each month.
Not saying either case is worse that the other but I sure would feel better if I lost 100 grand which was profit from other investments rather then 2 years of hard work.
Your a narcissist.
@The Publican aka dj,
I have read many of your posts over the years and most I have agreed with.
I do also tend to side with you here about shareholders getting nothing back but why oh why do you feel the need to post your views now on the issue?
You sold out. OK I wish I had sold too and I think most here would also wish they had sold out.
I can understand the need for you to post your views if you where still invested in this ****show but now is the time for you too move on and let the people left in this mess to deal with it in the way they think best.
There is no point now in your posts so why do do still feel the need to share with others when it is clear nobody cares what you have to say.
Nothing you say will make any difference now, is too late.
You may well have made the right choice to sell even for a loss and you posting now just shows you will not leave until all have agreed that in hindsight you made the right choice.
Who are you trying to convince? us or yourself?
You are a publican right?
Well there is some middle age bloke sitting in your pub.
He is a cleaver chap (professor of something) and he will just not shut the hell up about covid.
He says how he saw it coming and he was lucky because he was prepared so although he did suffer like most in the world he got of lightly.
Now he keeps saying this to all in the bar, some lost family, some lost their businesses and many their jobs.
All that he is saying is true but just the fact is that nothing he says now is of any help and nobody wants to hear how he managed to avoid what the others had lost.
You can see he is really starting to p1ss off your other customers and think he has had a little too much too drink.
You stop serving him anymore drink and hope he will sober up a little and quieten down.
He still keeps annoying your customers so to keep things friendly you politely suggest he should leave.
He still doesn't get the message and keeps spouting his message of how he is all OK and what a shame half your family died, oh that's a real bugger about you losing your business closing down and you losing your house oh and so sorry for all you over there who are out of work.
Guess that this bloke is just so full of himself and is unable to realize when to shut the F up.
As a publican at what stage do you throw the annoying ***** out?
Guess Toby Bradbury was inspired by the film Brewster's millions.
Spend 30 million in 30 days to get the real prize.
300 grand to the local restaurant. WTF they been stuffing into their fat faces.
Meanwhile I'm left to lick the moss off the rocks for dinner and if I'm lucky I can get down to McDonalds before they empty the bins.
Thanks Strummer. Saved me getting into trouble.
The shares are worthless but still show and have done for a few years.
if you mean deduct the loss before any tax becomes payable then im sure you can.
I think you can go back a few years and use any losses against tax.
If the shares become worthless because company gone bust or whatever then any shares in your isa will move to your trading account.
I had 500 shares in an isa in a company that went bust and after a year HL moved them to my other account as it said i could not have them in an isa because they went bust.
Many thanks R2-D2
I did join discord yesterday but am working weekend (long hrs) so will try and setup the rest next week.
As others have said it is a little long winded for someone who has never used anything like discord but will try and take it one step at a time.
regards.
I did ask for a link early yesterday but nobody posted a link :(
As I think this is the case I also think the board have made a major balls up.
Yes we now have more chance of losing assets.
If the board had kept up payments for a few months and then said unexpected costs were the reason why they defaulted then chances are they would be given time to get back up to date with repayments.
This could have gone on for over a year but the board got too greedy and impatient.
The only plus I see from their impatience and the way they have done it is that it gives us a stronger case to sue for fraud.
I have know people that would take out personal loans, take out credit cards and buy stuff on the never never with no intention of paying back what is owed.
The No1 rule is you always always make the first few repayments.
Then when you default if worst came to worst you just get taken to county court.
If you broke rule No1 then the chances were you would or could be charged with fraud as it would show you had no intention of paying back what was owed when you took out the load.
Instead it would or could be magistrates court or worse.
Unless you had a very good reason that you could prove and also prove you did not know on signing of the loan then you would get zero sympathy from any court.
Yes this is a secured loan but as they never even made the first payment they cannot expect any sympathy.
To me it looks 100% this was the plan to default and there can only be one reason for that with the loan secured.
BB if Ukraine and Russia were both turned into wasteland and every Russian was killed and all but ONE Ukrainian person was left standing you would see that as victory for Ukraine.
You were brought up on war films from the 60s and 70s.
It is sad not if Bakhmut falls but sad because there is nothing left to defend.
You see no need for peace talks you just want to see total destruction all while sat in the comfort of your living room (command centre).
Time to get the dustpan and brush out and clear all the casualties from your mock up battlefield.
You blame Putin for all the death and destruction but to find who is responsible just take a look in the mirror.
You and all like you.
With all the cash he has stashed away he could buy the white house.
If he came to UK then in a couple of years I can see him buying a football club.
One thing for sure, no way will he go back to his old job.
Too many hecklers.
Remember me for the electrician job.
Can someone post a link for the group for me to join?
Your such an idiot you don't even realise that your statements confirm you are only posting here to wind people up.
Nail on the head? what an idiot.
If that refers to me then sorry to inform you that you are totally wrong.
I just find you a boring *****.