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McStock

Its funny when you've got ramping drivel to post, you're always here, but when asked a simple question that you can't bat away, you go all quiet on the western front......

McStock

If the question is, as you suggest "drivel" then it should be but a nano second's work for such an intellect as yours to answer, an simple yes / no will suffice

Answer the question

McStock

So, once the final wiring is done, is AFC going to be able to recognise any more of the £2.0M contract price?

Simple answer to an easy question

I rest my case.....someone quoted earlier

"Adam did say that every tower that has gone out on trial has been paid for at a premium to what a diesel gen set would cost."

What wasn't mentioned, though, was that very little actual consideration was paid for the use of the amazing towers of power, because they were actually "paid for in kind" in the form of "Marketing services" ......how can they have been "paid for at a premium" of the company actually received very little real for the use of the units, so yet again, we have a cherry picked element of the true situation......

Pomm

Adam doesn't lie, and that's a fact. What does happen, though, is that everything that comes out of the company is so veiled in ambiguity that it can be interpreted in so many different ways. No evidence is ever released which gives either the acolytes or the naysayers the opportunity to prove that their side of the argument is right, and by definition, the other side wrong. This approach can be viewed in one of two ways, either it's a very clever strategy adopted in the light of unforseen delays, basically keeping the balls in the air until such time as the wrinkles are ironed out, designed to buy the company time before the market becomes disenfranchised, or its a deliberate and cynical strategy designed to mask the fact that the company is nothing more than a lifestyle vehicle for the directors.

I'm keeping my own counsel on this, and not calling it one way or the other, I'm simply posing the question, where is the actual evidence to support the rhetoric which the ubers so avidly lap up.

Ten

Ahh…bless…you just keep believing, and I’m sure it will all come good for you in the end….my view is that you’ll probably get more joy out of a Christmas cracker, but that’s just my view, you don’t have to acknowledge or agree with me,…..

Says the person who stated that “loads of good stuff is said off record”

mcstock

aren’t these sell side analysts meant to be a bit analytical? on the basis that the company can’t issue anything without it being veiled in ambiguity, how well do you think they will do in a q&a session? did you honestly think that their performance was even remotely believable on the investor thing, where they were using rehe****d answers to cherry picked questions….anyway, who are these mythical ii;s you keep referring to? aren’t most of them simply holding entities for individuals acting on an execution only basis?

Daz

Why would they? What would the new bod do all day? Les has already secured the amazing £26 order book (hahaha!) and that’s before you even factor in the millions they’re going to get from ABB….you know, they’re the ones who are meant to be buying the 200kw unit that would appear to have not met any milestone performance targets for over a year….even better, as Les has done this all on his own, why not give him Robin’s salary as well…..

Ten

Touched a nerve?

Read the RNS…..another exercise in ambiguity. It doesn’t say in what quantity….

If my research is that poor, how come no one in the Uber camp ever comes up with a credible counterpoint….ok, you tried, but have failed miserably…..saying “I’ve seen some pictures on the company website” or whatever isn’t really valid comment…..how about you say something like “I hear what you say, but actually, in independent tests, X kg of ammonia was put in, and you of H2 came out, it cost Y kw to do it…..” call me lazy if you like, but only after you’ve done the proper research needed to de bunk my assertions…do my questions have a bias? No, I say it simply as I see it and invite valid counterpoint…

Pomm

Hahaha!

as if.........

mcstock

i'm sure that the company will reiterate all you say.....so that's fine, just because les says it's jam tomorrow again, we can believe him?

ask yourself the following

1. the company is undervalued....by whom? obviously not the market, because the share is going down faster than a **** in an apple bobbing contest.

2. why have the forecasts not included anyting for the 200kw unit? the abb thing was such a big deal, and all of the apologists were touting the great relationship with abb as the excuse for the share giveaway. might the non inclusion of the 200kw units in the sales projections have something to do with the fact that the deal has gone cold, and performance milestones not been met?

3. is the ammonia cracker actually a thing yet, or simply a proof of concept? you simply don't know, and the caveat on any perceived value needs to be "if it works"

4. your last statement is a clear incitement for pi's to buy in....that, in anyone's book is a ramp...shame on you.....

Pommy

About time for a "Bounce" isn't it?

Contsructive

"The speedyhire Units are being built & the first one as already been delivered, as you well know"

Oh, of course, there are photos all over the place showing vast numbers of operatives busily putting units together...but there aren't, are there? and one unit delivered? that equates to about 0.5 percent of the contract total, assuming that the capex is intended to be remotely commercially viable.....

"The Hydrogen cracker has been built & working for awhile now & plenty of large companies are coming to see it in operation every single week. ( as you well know )."

Where have you seen anything to suggest that its anything other than a small scale lab prototype? Those with long memories will recall that we had the same thing with fuel cells a few years ago, where a lab prototype apparently worked, but when attempts were made to scale it up, it wasn't viable.

"ABB unit is abit behind schedule & being built & tested at this moment followed by CE marking. ( as you well know.)"

So far "a bit behind" that the company hasn't been able to reckognise any income from the contract for 12 months, and have effectively stated that they have no intention of doing so.

"So stop spouting your absolute crap on this board, your just embarrassing your sad self with your blatent lies"

Just because the statements don't fit your narrative doesn't mean that they are doo doo or lies. If you honestly believe that they are, then please feel free to support your argument with those things that are called....oh, what is it....facts....

From RNS 07/04/22

"The first Power Tower EV will be on display at the Company's Annual General Meeting this morning alongside the Power Tower launched last month."

Well, that went well, didn't it?

Pommmy

Your alter ego may well be a shareholder……

AGM’s gonna be great!

You can just imagine it…..well, it’s like this….we haven’t generated anything by way of reckonable income out of the ABB deal in 12 months, they haven’t said they’re gonna buy anything (otherwise we’d have included it in our fantastic (literally) sales forecast ) we’ve got a lab prototype cracker that will take years to develop, and we don’t even know us ammonia is actually a cost effective storage / transportation medium, we’ve got a deal with Speedy, but we can’t tell you what the terms are (but we haven’t said whether any units are in the process of construction yet) and the market doesn’t really buy into all of this spin…..never mind, another year, another £600k…….”

And the response from the Uber acolytes (the only ones dumb enough to waste time actually going)

“All hail the Adam……All hail the Adam…..All hail the Adam….”

Ahhh.bless its little cotton socks…..the Mc Stock is still pumping out the party line…..

How do you make that out? It's still down on the week.....talk about clutching at straws....