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Barnetpeter
The only reason this held was because a lot people were agreeing with people like me (the so called derampers) yesterday. So, the pumpers and dumpers had to throw us a bone. Watch it drop like a brick tomorrow or the day after. They did this last week too.
I don't post very much and sold on one of the recent spikes when I saw someone (and some of her/his friends) here whom I recognised from another board. I wasn't sure whether to say anything or not but my conscience wouldn't let me sleep. So, here it goes.
This person and her/his friends are huge rampers. They talk a share up and bring 'evidence' from twitter for their ramping, using words like 'boom' and 'to the moon' and forecasting ridiculous share prices which never materialise.
But, unfortunately it works because we are all motivated by FOMO. All their ramping gets you to buy more, creating a spike, and then they sell. It's called pumping and dumping. I've already seen the effect on 4D since last Friday. SP went from 115.80 to 124.80 and now back to 115.80. I really hope none of you bought and lost money.
The Cumulative effect of these booms and busts eventually leaves you disillusioned and/or out of pocket. I was going to say that it might be an idea to change to LBPS but I looked and they've had the same performance. Maybe if 4D gets delisted from AIM, things will be different. In the meantime, I suggest holding rather than buying. Or, if you see a spike, sell before they do. Only buy again if the price falls to your original sp less any fees you may have paid and have to pay again for re-entry. Just don't fall for all the ramping. These people are professional - the other share which I recognised them from is Novacyt which went up to £12 on two big spikes only to come down to £4 today. You can see them at work there, under slightly different names but you'll recognise them. One of them has the same signature everywhere. AIMO
Good luck to you all.
mburns70
Thank you for your support. The feeling is mutual. I've been up-ticking all your posts - both candid and brave. I wonder if you've seen how many people agree with you. Common sense will prevail in the end. I just hope real shareholders won't lose too much on the way - so easy to fall for all the ramping. I will keep my posts coming, regardless of nonsensical attacks.
I hope you do too.
UK2day
Well, I think you're very insecure about your investment to see me as a threat, instead of GM and his deramping RNSs, and clearly delusional.
I also think that you must have been bullied as a child and try to make up for your inferiority complex by bullying others. Luckily, I have a very healthy sense of self-worth. I hope you can live with that.
Airlineboy,
Thank you for the clarification. With all the talk of Dylionaire, I must have confused both of you as one of the LTHs. I'm sorry for your loss. I hope Dylan is not giving you a hard time for getting his average up. You might be able to rectify that now or in a couple of weeks.
I already said that it was probably produced by some fan.
My point was that (a) it was the wrong image to be posted on Twitter, since so many people would see it, and (b) how little it takes for people on this board to get excited.
Lack of communication from the company is driving everyone to read so much into so little - hence all the ramping. Next, we'll be seeing GM's face on a piece of toast.
I notice that no-one mentioned anything about Chard's point about the company website making mistakes.
Chard1980
Remember the video which was made, showing GM driving through some road with palm trees on either side? The crowds here went mad over it. There were so many theories thrown around about what it could mean - every item was supposed to mean something else. It was like Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code. I couldn't understand all the jollity. I just thought it looked amateurish and unprofessional. Painting a totally wrong portrait of a precision company. I don't know if the company was involved in the making of that video - it may have been some fan. But, for the company website to be making these form of mistakes ...
Oriens1
Even if you don't believe or like charts, you should take note of them because Institutional Investors use these to buy or sell. The big fall on the 9th could not have been produced just by private investors. It would have been by IIs selling like mad because sp crossed some threshold probably triggering the sell button automatically.
Yesterday I bought a quarter the shares which I sold on the 9th at 400 and already regretting it. PIs are emotional creatures - IIs tend to look at what the charts are doing. If we want the sp to go up, we have to look at what IIs are doing.
BarnetPeter
Is there a point at which the IIs might start buying back?
mburns70 and shareintrested
I agree with every word on your posts. Bonuses should never be given retrospectively. Bonuses should always be used as incentives for FUTURE performance of the company (sales & profits) and reflection of that performance on SP.
DrDev,
You're most welcome. I said everything you just said in my last post and it was removed for no discernible reason.
You should expect some trolling after your post such as the ones below about me. Don't take any notice. I've observed that those with their own agenda often criticise posters for having too few posts and others, for having too many. This is because they can't argue with my common sense and logic. If they did, they wouldn't need to make insinuations about me. If this happens to you, just know that you are on the right track.
I have faith in the British public's famed common sense. It's just that many are put off posting any kind of feelings or thoughts which go against those who have the platform at large. So they stay quiet. Trust me, there are many people who feel like us.
Soon, they will see the light and question why people make comments such as 'bed-wetters', when people are genuinely concerned about their investment. Or, why is it that when people complain about being carried away by certain people's over-optimistic posts and are now sitting on an even larger loss, the people responsible never say sorry. They don't even answer. Instead a completely different 'person' comes on the board and says "Anyone who takes financial advice from someone on this board (or Twitter et al), is an idiot." Imagine?
People like you should not give in to fear from these people. Look at Hydr - he has been standing up to them all week, maybe longer, despite all sorts of opposition and insinuations about his motive.
Take heart from him and post more often so that people like you speak up as well.
And, remember, if it comes to it, I'll be raising hell to get us a fair deal. For now, we have to be patient and see what their next move is. I, personally, think that there'll be a lot of movement up and down but mainly down since bad news has not been followed with good news. And, when do get good news, there's always a caveat about future uncertainty, which IIs hate and sell in bulk.
In my opinion, this is done to put investors off, private as well as IIs, who are not emotionally attached to this company and hate too much turbulence.
I have to go now but will be back some other time. If you need me, call out for me.
Plenty here will try to divert you from the real issue which is: why am I losing your hard-earned money? There’ll be many posts here to discredit me such as my infrequent posting, means that I must be an agent of some kind. I trust you’ll use your good old British common sense to decide for yourself:
1. In my experience, the biggest risk factors are where the owner is NOT in charge of the day-to-day running of the business. This applies both to small businesses, and even more so to public corporations where the ownership is not in the hands of a few shareholders but very many. This is because the small shareholders are rarely organised into a coherent group with ONE voice. Large groups of people can easily be divided and ruled. This board is a very good example.
Or, look at all those shareholders who are constantly frustrated at the salaries and bonuses awarded by the board of directors to themselves, year in year out, even when they don’t perform well – the bankers after the credit crunch are an example but there are many others you never hear about.
Most institutional holders won’t care about the large bonuses, mostly because they use their vote to control the board and also because often, they are old friends from school (hence the expression old school tie).
2. Now, imagine that you owned Novacyt by yourself and you get an email from your general manager who runs the company on your behalf, telling you that he’s started a legal case with your biggest customer and that your turnover for the year will be half of what it was. Wouldn’t you be angry that he’s taken such a monumental decision without your permission or even consultation? After all it is YOUR money which he is being so brazen about. So, you email him to say what the hell he was thinking and what on earth is going on? But, not only he doesn’t explain his actions, he doesn’t even email you back. What would a normal person do under these circumstances? Would you:
(i) Congratulate him on being tough, even though you still don’t know the circumstances of the dispute?
(ii) Exclaim that you are happy to be free of the shackles of your biggest customer because now you can go and find another big customer or lots of little ones or MAYBE a bigger one sometime in the future?
(iii) Start a disciplinary procedure for gross misconduct, destroying half of your turnover without asking your permission halving the value of your company and ignoring your many emails?
This is not a rhetorical question. Another question: why are some people here not even considering the reality of what's happening and what a lot of you are feeling in your guts? Please use your common sense and ask why is the sp going down so much so fast and whether you feel happy about it.
HarChris, This is the link giving the latest broker advice. You have to go halfway down the page to the Q and A section on the right:
https://www.marketbeat.com/stocks/LON/NCYT/
HarChris , There have been many, totally inexplicable monumental **** ups in a very short space of time. And, some here are behaving like this is the best thing which happened to us, talking of all the brilliant 'possibilities', completely ignoring the reality.
We are dealing with institutions which have trillions in their hands. I don't like to give financial advice. All I can say is that I bought some of my shares back and when I looked at broker forecasts, they advised HOLD rather than BUY or SELL.
crl123, I don't want to name names. My last post was mysteriously deleted for no offence. But, if you're asking, I can only say that BR have form in this area.
But, it's not doom and gloom. I wouldn't be worth my hourly rate if I didn't have a solution. It would help if I had some support for that solution, but even if I don't, I'm going to do what's needed because as a Responsible Person (with capital R and P), I have a duty to call out fraud where I see it, and report it to the proper authorities.
Rest assured, if we don't get the right price for our shares, I will go above and beyond to get it, especially if they're BR because right now they are being sued by another lot of shareholders in the US and we can offer them help in return for their help for us.
Also, due to the Greensill fiasco, the FCA will have to bend backwards to satisfy me with a thorough examination and if they don't I'll go to the papers and make a racket.
Timing is on our side. It's as though someone is watching over us. I didn't choose my moniker for nothing.
Bluelight, How do you know about the sales to the rest of the world or private contractors? After all, we thought we KNEW what the sales for 2020 were especially as they were declared to the whole world. It turns out, now we may have to revise Q4 sales and profit.
Even if we have brilliant sales (as was the case when the draft numbers were announced), all we need is another terrible forecast for the future by GM and the sp falls below this.