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See I told you they would cut it.
Just getting in early before the band wagon jumpers get here, please note the date and time for reference.
By the way, I see the frightful bore is still clapping his symbols like the Duracell rabbit, what a dullard.
I would like to pay tribute to the Openreach Engineers that are out in the streets fixing the lines and doing what they do, Im talking about Engineers here, not the Managers that are at home doing important stuff like tidying the house, polishing shoes, eating far to much food getting even fatter.
Toff, you are exactly like the drunk that sits at the bar all day wondering why he always gets a kicking when he tries to complement someone else's wife, day in day out until his liver explodes and nobody goes to the funeral.
Did you know that more US service men died of Spanish Flue in 1918 than was lost during the war, 50 Million dead worldwide, not that long ago, do you think they was all wrapped up in how much the markets was down at the time and gobbing off about told you so and invest in this and invest in that bla bla bla.
There are some remarkably uncouth and self serving people on this forum, people are suffering and dying as you type out your hatred for BT and laugh at the failure of the market.
Go on then, who is voting for who?
I am perplexed confused and getting dizzy, all I would like is a truthful set of manifestos that do not change 5 seconds after you read them.
I have never been so undecided.
I would go with facts over fiction, but it seems fiction has become the new fact.
Fleccy, has the fact that BT own the lot and pay for whats required gone straight over your head, if Openreach want it and BT dont then it does not happen , you can call that control if you want.
Now you have looked it up, If nothing else you can show off at work in hush hush "Telecoms" and tell all those that need to know whats going on and who owns what, you may get a promotion after your fact finding mission, or maybe people will get tired and yawn in your general direction.
Blupete, I agree, however the government would no doubt then treat BT as just another holistic provider and let them charge what they want to, and close down many other providers overnight, but then they may come down on Openreach as hard as they could as everything and everybodys gripes would be down to Openreach, (who would care? everyone, as who would get prioity,? the people that paid the most for openreaches service or any other telecom contractor outfit)) or it could get swallowed up and become a government department that would once again be answerable to nobody, perhaps re-brand it as GPOpenreach. Look at Australia and New Zealand for example, it has already happened years ago and it works but people still complain as nobody wants to supply a fibre cable 600 miles down a farmers driveway, for the 10 bucks a month the farmer wants to pay.
Bluepete, your correct, but much of the confusion appears to come from those that purport to work in the industry, or speak like they own the place, perhaps its early days I mean its only been like this since 2006, perhaps the message will eventually get home. If you work for Openreach then you have no connection to BT, even your payslips say Openreach, sure you have a BT pension if you worked there long enough, but thats it.
BT are heading down their own path, and so are Openreach, eventually it will become clear that one doesn't need the umbrella of protection and imposed restrictions via regulations designed to stop a monopoly anymore. A board of directors that report to the people that pay there wage, I mean come on
Fleccy, as you say, Its no concern of mine who you work for and what you have done and do, its just I am surprised that there is still obvious public and media confusion about BT and Openreach, that includes many of those that work for Openreach. BT staff are much clearer and easier to deal with than those who hide behind the Openreach bullet proof vest.
Fleccy, nobody asked about costs, and Openreach do not own the network assets. They do not control the access network, BT control it as Openreach do not have the land rights. Openreach maintain and install Bts network on behalf of all the service providers that care to use it, Openreach work on all of their behalves equally and fairly. What telecoms do you work in?
Fleccy, you ask me what I think BTs core domain is, let me just point out that you praise Openreach and state they own the poles and network, at least I know who owns what!
BTs core domain is Network, a global business has been built on the back of it, yet its being forgotten, overlooked and neglected, it needs uplifting and bringing bang up to date by BT so they can secure their future. A bit here and a bit there is not enough.
Go ahead and tell me Im wrong, tell me that Bts core business is paying a smart Alec to look smug and spiel about 22 lightweight puffs punting a ball round a field.