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Ofcouse, I wish I was. I would also want it to go to 80p rather than >£3/4 where it belongs. SMH

Carnival was 30 in Feb' 2020 and is now around 11 - which is fair, might get to 20 with more positive momentum
RR was 7 in feb'2020 and is 217 now- you can see how more battered it is?

I understand this is going up, I am just saying that - it should've settled around 280 - 320 - if it goes according to the other movements. Each stock with its own way I suppose.
I know it will get better with economy opening up and a vaccine news

What is worst is that Rolls Royce is not even an airline. What would have happened if it was an airline? I mean how can 80% of a company this big be wiped off when there are still some flight activities going on. It is basically safe to say this will go bust if no flights were in the air. I mean look at cruise companies (carnival etc) who are not sailing until march next year and have not been sailing since February/March. How are they able to maintain close to 50 - 60% of their SP and Rolls Royce is this down? It is honestly fraudulently scary, especially with the CFO departing. All these do not add up.

Then who gave the leaks to the newspapers? Why have the share issue not been called (the articles said early September) we are still in early September, why havn't they called it? This stock is just a mess and heavily manipulated by brokers, MM and others. To me, everyone is a suspect - even the Government! How can they keep shouting go back to work etc without adequate help to indigenous companies? what was the point of the loans and bank notes given in June when Economy is no where near coming back? nothing makes sense in here

I honestly think Rolls Royce is terribly terrible company to invest in, it does nothing to help its sentiments. Most airlines are not even more than 50 - 60% down from their pre-covid levels and Rolls Royce which has many other businesses and still generating substantial revenue is down over 80%. Surely this points to a very terrible management.
This is usually the case with most government-assisted businesses. Having said these, I truly hope this is the absolute bottom. because I feel bad for people who came in at prices like 800p or 700p, those are essentially hopeless now - which is bad.
I think a vaccine news will see a substantial price increase, but how substantial? 400s? 500s? (and thats even been optimistic) perhaps, but even then, that is still 1/2 price. Rolls Royce is just abysmal, there is no hiding this.

These RR prices are so surreal! Unbelievable, 52 week high is £11 and was trading at £8 just this year - even at 1/3 of that value - this should be trading at least around 280 - how does other companies that are worst affected like the actual airlines and cruise ships still able to maintain 40 - 50% of their value and RR just about keep only 25% of its value.The market is gone mad, somethings just dont add up at all. Especially when you know RR cant go bust?I can only point to stock manipulation

Sure a USA vaccine will be distributed in November - This is by CDC:CDC asks states to speed approvals so coronavirus vaccine sites are ready by Nov. 1

Indeed my thoughts, I mean the 80p price action means almost 96% of the company wiped due to COVID? that is so unheard of especially when we are much closer to a vaccine. I cannot see FDA not approving a vaccine before USA GE - which is in November. It is either someone wants to short for their buddies or someone wants to drag it for maximum profit or both!

Politics certainly does, which was why Germany banned foreigners (chinese) from buying shares from some state companies. Rolls Royce remains a strategic company for the British people. Journalist who run articles have a purpose for running them, sometimes it is not a dignifying purpose.

How can any sane person set a price action of 80p for Rolls Royce, which was 11 pounds just few months ago?! Is it the amagedon or the apocalypse? why would anyone want to buy with such press?

Even American airlines like Spirit and Delta have not lost more than 50% of their value, why should RR lose close to 80% on same basis?

There is something political about what is going on with the SP action

It peaked at 464 on June 8th interday.

Many people who are referred to as "Derampers" are frequently trolling on this board, trying to influence other people's decision on this share. I doubt if much of the RR share holders even read this board or use it for decision. Overall everyone knows Rolls Royce has plummeted from 11 around October last year to the low 2s that it is now. I have seen company values being wiped out but a monstrous 80% value based on Corona virus seems way way over fetched. I have always maintainted 5/6 is almost half of this stock's value. that should be the minimum it would be when a vaccine or stimulus news hit. Even airlines and cruises that are worst hit are still maintaining around 40 - 45% of their value.
This stock has been intentionally drowned by institution buddies, shady brokers and shorters. Rightly so because they know it is a tax payer's company - in the worst of all case, the taxpayers will always come to the rescue.

Having said that, it is just a message to the "derampers" - as a Brit, it hurt to see the value of the entire FTSE being eclipsed by the market cap of apple, looking for sub 80 and sub 200 is just rather demonic, RR is one of the last standing asset of this country and if it is not save. It will be a stain and disgrace to management and hit us all hard. Also remember, no one makes decisions based on your comments, anyone who decides to trade RR does it on their own accord (i hope!) - But it I feel the rumours and gossips that pushed this stock down has done the British people a huge disservice!

is this recent? how can it go from 8.45 to 1.15 when just the commercial flight of the company is affected. They are still getting defence contracts, cargo airlines (should have increased) and more! Something is obviously not adding up, hoping to see what a vaccine news brings to this stock, it is shambles at the moment

Not your fault, it is so confusing. Even this reuters article claims the jump this morning is because of Luxury cars demand!?

https://uk.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/british-stocks-gain-on-signs-of-economic-recovery-rolls-royce-jumps-2202373

Can you imagine? Those are meant to be experts

Shorters playing with the SP - clearly from the huge buys at the close of play on friday to the sells this morning. MMs are using this to make some money through shorting.

Thats just want I need to hear, I will take the chance. I might split it into 2 ways and enter at 60(or 59) to see how it goes , then add more, if it goes down further, then wait for the big jump.

When does Tenet open in the USA? I think it will jump then

Yes, I bought at 48 too and sold at 59.90 - I was very happy. I do not like to hold for long, because i put quite abit (30k). Which is why I am doing all the DD before jumping him. I made a small trim the other day when I re-entered at 57.7 and went out at 60.

I want to try it again, but something is telling me my luck might get caught.... which is why I was worried about the trap.

Ideally I want to buy and hold over the bank holiday perhaps for next week, but not sure since we have all these greenday consecutively, I know for sure few red days are coming even though the entire outlook is upbeat. For day traders like me, I wouldn't like to hold any shares, I just want to buy and sell within 2 weeks tops.

I will wait for 8:30 tomorrow to assess the situation, then I will decide.

You reckon? I have made very good profits on Cine, but I am just thinking of this trend.
I guess i might just take the risk tomorrow, I believe i wont lose any more as i would have an exit chance. Just that I hope it hits like 70 or so, so that I can make some profit (I checked the price history on investing.com, but it usually pulls back with a red day after several days of 'rally' like this')..

I know you said its pulled back, but its been all green days for 8 days now? You reckon the upward will continue like this?

I am very bullish on this, but I dont want to get caught in a trap. I am just wondering, as it has been 8 consecutive green days, do you think there will be a pullback anytime soon? Or should just jump on it at 60?
Its a tough one, I want to enter, but I see its been 8 straight days, which is unusual, I checked the full history and it has never been so long, I do not want to enter when it starts pulling back - what do you guys think?

There is an overwhelmingly huge number of buys! I wonder if it is the shorts, or just people seeing this a good entry point. Sentiments will change in a second if a vaccine is announced. That is very obvious

Seems we going 300 - 400 this week and next week. This is a lesson to those paid derampers and shorters waiting for the price to fall 'sub £2' and '90 pence' before they buy in, shows how terrible their knowledge of investing is. Very pathetic, to think of Rolls Royce in that light. You will see how things go from here and when the vaccine news drops, its game over. £212 was the best price ever in over a dacade, just say, you missed chance of the decade