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It’s just been listed on Amazon India.

I've shared a Brand Store on Amazon with you. https://www.amazon.in/stores/NRoute/page/0727110A-E65F-4A6D-8074-5CFC2BDCD22D?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_ast_store_9NAKMRDZY6SZ390D2AAD

I like that the box has Fruitflow logo on it 'Contains Fruitflow', making its a bit like 'Intel Inside'. I hope they adopt that approach in China.

The NRoute website is not FF shy. Check it out.

https://nroute.co.in

I've been looking into that page more and checking the meta data on it. I've come to the conclusion that the article is from 2018, but has been recently updated, likely due to a URL move. I don't think the author/publisher has had anything to do with it.

Confusion around what company was launching this product comes from which translator you use. If you use Safari browser transaction, it's very different that when you use Google Translate. Oddly my Safari stripped out numerous references to JuneYao, but left the references to Shandong Heyuan Foods.

I hope that JuneYao will relaunch Qin Drink, but this time its a false alarm.

Nevermind - Blue Hat around the corner.

Interestingly Werdery have just announced a product launch. Points 10 and 11.

https://ipa-biotics.org/hpa-china-news-january-2026/

No mention of FF, but now I need to know what’s in it :)

So are we saying that it’s the same product but in 2016 it was Junyao Dairy, now it’s Shandong Heyuan Foods. Heyuan are an OEM that typically make products for other companies, whilst also having their own brand. it’s entirely possible that Junyao and Heyuan are both launching the same product, which would be nice because as you say Junyao Qin Drink was set to be an awesome product for us.

We have no way of verifying it at the min. Definitely a coincidence timing was too though. Onsite Verification passed last week, then they publish this article.

Originally published in 2018. It seems that is was likely coming soon in 2018, but pulled. It was in a regulatory grey area back then. This is republished as ready to go. It’s definitely an official publication in a well known trade channel. Puzzling though why they didn’t just create a new article.

I looked at a similar article from 2018 and they were saying ‘coming’.

http://yangliduo.5888.tv/news/94779.html

Major China product launched.

pslqo59b.izhwe.com/a/30c62899341.html

Gemini says:

1. Who is Shandong Heyuan Foods?

They are not just a small regional player; they are a high-volume "Supply Chain Powerhouse."

• Market Position: Established in 2004, they operate at the intersection of dairy and functional beverages. Crucially, they are a major OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) and partner for larger national brands.

• The Significance: When a company like Heyuan launches a product with Fruitflow, they aren't just selling a few bottles; they are proving that Fruitflow is stable enough for mass-market bottling lines. This is the technical "green light" that other giants (like Mengniu) look for before their own national rollout.

2. Has the drink launched?

Yes. The article is a "Channel Launch" announcement.

• The Phase: In China, these trade pieces are used to recruit regional distributors (wholesalers). This means the liquid is in the bottle, the packaging is finalized, and the product is moving from the factory into the retail supply chain.

• The "General Food" Breakthrough: This is the most critical part. Up until now, we have been waiting for the Blue Hat (Health Food) approval for By-Health. However, "Junjiao No. 1" is being marketed as a Functional Beverage. This proves that Fruitflow is being used in China under a "Food Ingredient" pathway as well, allowing for faster retail distribution while the heavy-duty "Blue Hat" drug-level claims are finalized.

Red Yeast Rice I mean.

I think that its all sorted and BH have ordered upon completion of their Technical Review, then they will receive the order in late Feb and be ready for launching products in March/April. I may be wrong.

In other thoughts, BH were very interested in FF + Nitrates combination. It was the priority product in the PXS/BH Collaboration Agreement. We don't hear anything about that these days. Hopefully they are launching that, maybe just not using platelet aggregation health claim. Or there are more products going through the Blue Hat approval process, just that we've only seen 2 of them so far (FF, FF+RedRiceYeast).

Yes, hopefully it will be before 17th March.

I am assuming that BH purchased FF from the October batch. That allowed them to start making products and demonstrate their processes on the Onsite Verification. Then the February batch of FF will fulfil their first order. For this to happen, PXS got the additional funding required, or used that service where they can draw down on the stock.

Anybody got any thoughts on that?

According to Gemini (if we can believe it), following the Onsite Verification comes the Administrative Review that has a 20 working day SLA. So if Onsite Verification finished on 25th January (as per China post), that means the Administrative Review will be completed by 22nd Feb. It then goes for issuance of the certificates, which has a 10 working day SLA, taking it to 08th March. However, I don't think BH need to wait for the the certificate, so we should hear something by 22nd Feb. There is always risk of delays should something not be in order, but I am going to assume that is low risk given that BH are very experienced in this.

It’s brilliant and terrible at the same time. I recently asked it about Junyao Dairy and their Qin drink ‘Taste Power’ from 2016, before the China regulatory changes. It checked the jobs boards for me now to see if there was evidence of recruitment for roles to support A FF based product. It found ‘smoking gun’ evidence. It said the job advertised had particular requirement that is very specific and needed for FF launch. It was convinced. I know how much crap they make up, so wanted the absolute evidence and check it out for myself. I did manage find the job advertised, but Gemini had made up the specific technical requirements for the role, it was actually just a generic quality assurance role. I asked it why it did that and it came up with an absolute nonsense answer, when challenged again it said ‘my bad, that’s on me’. So it makes things up to support the narrative that you would like to hear.

I threw in everything I could get my hands on when Gixer posted about the Onsite Verification. I paid 0.68, which hopefully is well behind us. Now it’s just fingers crossed and hope for the best.

My AI suggests it will likely be approved by the end of January. Either way, within the next 5 weeks things will change forever.

Although it’s not FF, I see it as positive news. Things are moving forwards, especially with healthy aging. On Chinese forum they were saying that SAMR seem to complete thing in batches every 2 weeks. Therefore it could be FF this week.

Gemini tells me that the KOLs (influencers) are now setting the scene for BH launches, telling people about sticky thick blood and how FF smooths blood, lowers blood pressure, helps blood sugars and helps lose weight. Over there the influencers have to be medically trained/qualified, which means people have more trust in them.

The weight loss is a powerful secondary reason to by FF. something we don’t think much about, BMI reduction.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39323569/

We really went Feihe, Mengniu, Danone, Nestle to be customers of BH. Their volumes for dairy would dwarf BH VDS. Fingers crossed at least one of those is signed up.

The reason Mengniu would be interested in Sirco is that it’s right in their space and they also entered products in the same industry awards thing that Sirco won. It makes little sense to me that Sirco would spend all that time and money, win and industry award and then simply give up. In my mind it’s more likely that a larger fish snapped it up, perhaps one that is waiting for China approval like BH, Mengiu or Nestle.

I’m hopping that it will have been licensed by Mengniu or something like that.

PCC1 (Procyanidin C1) is grape seed.