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I think you have to understand how jaded a lot of people feel though. We all understand and appreciate that mining is a long road, but this venture has been going on for so, so long with little end in sight, outside of absolute dreamers and cheerleaders describing euphoric sp-busting scenarios that so far have been anything but, even on exceedingly good news, which should have got this moving beyond the paltry level it's stuck at.

Expectation versus reality on AIM is pretty bleak in truth. It's absolutely okay to state that this company has been an utter let down on the whole so far. That's not to say it will stay that way, progress has been made and the asset is indeed very good. But hand on heart, and despite the fact that a small group of happy-clappers seem willing to have Mr R's babies almost every day, can you genuinely say he information has been wholly transparent so far, that he is working his guts off in the best interests of long-suffering shareholders? Or, as with most AIM companies, positioning himself and his mates first?

I don't know. Not saying that's definitely the case. But it's worth keeping a balance that most AIM companies use shareholders, they don't 'look after' them. We're useful to them as chattel and to make up numbers. I'm tired, I want out, but I'm not prepared to lose my money too soon. I'll wait for IF there's a reasonable uplift, a sale or JV (if he can pull that off) and then people like me and BB will no doubt vanish and you can have the floor to sing the praises of LR. But there's also a very high chance this will rattle on for years, making nothing and doing nothing. Hence the rightful skepticism. We see it all time and time again on AIM.

By the time we get to April with no news we'll have run out of minus noughts to stick onto this thing.

They're German-based right? I saw an article that suggested they were struggling anyway, the inference being that they were using Brexit as a tad bit of an excuse.

Tally is a UK-based company current not operating in the UK. We're still in the transition period so from the UK side things haven't changed for operating abroad afaik, and probably won't for the whole year.

I just don't see how you can know what CP is paying in tax or working for nothing. That's patently ridiculous. He may be for Tally but he certainly isn't overall.

I have no ill will towards CP and never have had. I have been balanced in my assessment that we wouldn't be here without him and he has had a huge input. But the fact remains that these are very wealthy individuals who are lucky enough to be making money from other, let's face it, cushy AIM appointments, when what little some people have in non-essential money (but which is nevertheless important to them) is locked away with every access point being moved further away.

They HAVE to get this relisted ASAP as a priority. Its going to unlock and unleash a world of extra opportunities and of itself would help spread the Tally message across the market. A relisted company popping up would make more impact in trade/industry magazines alone than any of the small scale PR that's basically sunk out of sight so far.

I care not if CP dips in his own pocket again or not, but let's get it done this year, no excuses.

I think I was remarkably restrained.

He indicated that from that £175k he put in £120k to this so came away with a £55k salary.

But, that's only for one year, and if you can afford to put that much in, you can't be doing too badly elsewhere. I really doubt someone with a family and living in London is going to be able to run a house, car, take holidays and get by on £55k a year on London/South East England prices. We know he has income from other jobs. On the plus side, he has put skin in the game at Tally, and we wouldn't even have a concept if it weren't for him. So, swings and roundabouts. :/

But I do agree Tally needs to get back to market asap because this kick the can is helping nobody, least of all Tally itself, getting battered nonstop on Twitter whenever it tries and put out any promo. I'd even stick my neck above the parapet and suggest the directors get this back to market via their own funds, and forego the Crowdfunding.

'Don't want to crush hopes'

You don't. The only hope crusher imo is the company itself, who until they say they're winding this up and walking away, haven't.

Nothing we say here, be it poz neutral or neg, affects what goes on within Tally.

Dear god, it's pathetic though. It shouldn't even be down here, let alone needing a ram-raiding truck to break through that paltry offering.

Thanks for popping by bigmj.

I guess the proof will be in the pudding. Hopefully it is a case of getting there slowly, but getting there.

PS, apple, its nothing to do with confidence in the product/concept. They're super confident.

The problem they have is that it suffers from a lack of proper marketing, they kept it close and coddled. They prioritised team building and office space. I suspect the real problem is that Crowd funding may not be the golden goose they hope, purely because investors have fallen out of love with propping AIM companies up because so many squander the gift they're given and ultimately fail.

On those grounds I can see why they'd want to unveil a better version product than the first, so they have more to take to the people. But the heel dragging has also had a negative effect on investor enthusiasm. The net effect of both positive and negative decisions is yet to be seen and not for me to predict. But God no, they love their own product. When you hear them talk about it its going to set the world on fire.

And it may yet. It's all to play for.

I tackled him on it on the Tally q and a and although he was all, I hear you, I only got the standard 'but we have to get this right' and 'funding in place' and all that. I'd said I felt that it was somewhat a case of politicians answers. He always acknowledges, and his responses are measured, polite and informative. He doesn't brush people off. And I do believe they are genuinely aiming for a return to market, and not AIM by the sound of it.

But I still get the impression they are clueless as to the trauma caused to investors by having their funds locked away. I would like like to participate in the Crowd funding, but the money that I had free to play with is locked up in Tally, so I can't. It's like on this issue, he won't or can't openly see the damage that this has done. I know it wasn't Tally's fault and if we'd have been active we'd likely have been sitting at under a penny by now on this ****hole of AIM. But, now that we have a workable product, and goalposts moved to'post summer', so after August and don't even think of banking on September, it's a case of chasing the can over the next hillock all the time.

He might be taking a small salary after his own funds get reinvested here but he's also got plenty of income from other jobs, savings, his wife will have money, etc, he can afford to live in the capitol or SE England. But many investors here don't have those additional incomes. Again, I felt it was hard to make him see the urgency of sticking to the very time lines and dates he has himself given. His relaxed attitude, whilst sympathetic and seemingly understanding doesn't gel with his willingness to make himself the bogeyman by moving dates further back all the time.

Just how precious is this concept? Get it out, sort bugs as we go along, get the funding underway ASAP and get us back as a fully functioning company! :)

Oh, you've landed at the right place here, mate.

Nothing he's said was actually unreasonable.

I asked where he was getting it from, not that I believed it.

Could the white screen be a case of the new app clashing with an older, common app that's already on the phones? Something from the download store or a setting on your phone?

I'm sure that if an investigation were to be carried out across AIM, the findings would be that there is deliberate collusion between more powerful forces to bring almost every share price down in order to wear pi out and force them to sell. Hence the House Always Wins motto.

I think most genuine souls would just like to see some smidgen of profit back. Or break even. A lot of us have been here a long time and have waited patiently for the company to finally deliver. I can't give a reason why the market has a downer on this one and it's probably far more complex than what seems obvious. But it has, and that does not look like changing until a significant, turnaround event occurs. If that occurs.

It's just a waiting game now.

Oh and he's after a Standard Listing, over AIM. Which is heartening but at the same time probably more costly. So it's really dependent on Crowdfunding interest and I guess whether the directors put their hands in their pockets. Or an institution comes on board, but it's all theoretical atm.

I can see us getting to relist, just on a longer road. My issue really is just please stop putting out dates and then flying past them. If you have a firm date in mind, stick to it. I do wonder how Tally functions sometimes, it seems so haphazard, but yet like many small companies they get there. Just ina kind of slightly chaotic way. I mean we're still here so...:)

I told him last night that they should pick a date and stick to it. That the can-kicking was making things worse. He answered briefly but gave a longer response, which I partly saw when in the process of logging out as had to leave at that point. So dunno what he said fully but got the gist it was 'we understand frustrations, but...' I'll have a look at it tonight when I can review the whole chat in peace.

...so many keen, legit shareholders made it to the Tally Q and A last night, confronting the BoD there, instead of wimping out and whinging on this forum about Cameron's dad, etc. Ho hum.

And on this appropriate day:

"HE'S NOT THE MESSIAH!!!!

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