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Personally I think that PFG will rise next week Tuesday. Its because so far, after every weeklong retrace, the company news was better than expected. And after each weeklong rising, the company news held many bad surprises and the price went down. Hope this help to evaluate your strategy and next moves. Next Tuesday will likely see better than expected news (for instance a small settlement with the FCA). From "Hawkey" on Genel energy share chat: ----------- Some real bargain out there. I particularly like PNN, Barrett, BHP, RBS and for a punk Provident Financial. Of course Genel is my darling and she will make or break me. Hawkey

So what's the big discussion then by you...? If last year November you had 3k, or lets say even 5k Pounds in PFG at 900p. And then you saw it weeklong slide to 655p, playing with your thumbs - or computer games. The you've lost 1.4k gbp. Not worth one minute of discussion here! What I dont understand is that some people (UK citizen) were cursing PFG and even the entire share chat community here when the Sp was 900-800p. But as soon as the Sp drops to 655p they start to like and love the company, see a bright future ahead, and are ready to bring substantial amounts in here. How does this taste, Fastfood?

And whats with this weird 1 mln share trade as low as 8.40p this afternoon...? 23-Feb-18 16:30:16 8.40 / 1,070,000 Sell* 9.20 9.80 89.88k O

...keep in mind that the company might ask to raise cash 'even if its only a modest level' as the company CEO said in January. IMO this is why they were supporting the share price i.o. to create a valid three months average. And this could serve as the basis for capital raise - with a 15-20% discount.

Now we're talking! Lets not compare apples with pears. 1) The first one was our short term rebound speculation last year September which indicated a swift rise to 900ish, and in case 950p is surpassed, then a rise to 1100 and 1200. Only in the short term! Nothing more, nothing less. 2) The second thing is the attempt to calculate if the company itself manages to recover; if they can stabilize quickly and even grow again, or to fall further? Conclusion: - Early birds turned a huge profit last summer during the rebound from 400ish or 500ish to as high as 900ish. Most of them were not even professional traders. - Those who popped up last September claiming that PFG is going down and nothing but down within a few weeks of time, those people have been wrong. PFG did not sink that way, and anyone of us early birds could have easily sold as from 880 and 850p down. Please allow me to ask what is your interpretation of small punt? Is it two or three K's? Will you stay invested even when PFG sinks? Me, being a mid sized pro-trader, a small punt means 3 - 5k. And a decent shareholding mens between 25 - 50k And the maximum I am doing is to buy 3 x 30k or 3 x 50k chunks. That is what I am ready to handover to a PLC. The same when I work with leverage / spread bets. ----------- 'This 6.55 GBP should be the bottom. I only bought a very small punt now. I am prepared to hold for a very long time.' Fastfood

Fair enough, Fastfood. I hope you managed to warn one or the other long term PI who basically just buys (if something is genuinely undervalued) and can wait and hold for years. Not me. Not professional investors. As for me all portfolio positions need to be balanced and cleared on a day to day or a week to week basis. Only in exception a position shall stay invested throughout one month. Your 200p announcement about "some day in the next six months" holds little value for me: Especially because even after steep PFG crashes to 820p, many of us managed to buy and sell at 880 and 920p again. That's a massive gain, my friend. (Yes, I agree with you that the company had problems. Yes, I agree with you that the company has challenges. Yes, I agree with you that a rebound would be difficult - but this is no use for me and a professional weekly trading business.) Nobody could have known that Mrs Wolstenholme suddenly died - seeing her lifetime work go down the drain. Please add this on the current "situation".

P.S.: Fastfood, please also note that PFGs financial figures 2017 are sure thing known to a selected group of people since a few weeks already! And the exact company figures are known to a wider group of insiders since Thursday, 15th February. Lets hope that PFG can finally make a rebound or at least stabilize at a certain price level. The past weeks have shown some ridiculous price swings, beyond all reason. If its true that company managers do not continue to support the price and let is slide (anywhere), then this is the first time I have heard about it. If this is so (time will tell), then probably because company directors as well as their financial allies have had no other possibility. With Barclays posting a 2 billion loss, it will be harder and harder for financial stocks o get fresh capital. On top of that comes the (US & UK) interest rate factor, which are set to rise as from March.

...none here with a substantial holding. So your suggested price has no value whatsoever, because your timeframe is useless (far too long). Announcing that a stock could be 150-200p lower in six months time, holds zero value for a professional investor. No way that someone other than a housewife would watch this drip drop down from 950 to 600p just like that. You now have a little punt in here...? Okeedokee, because just for fun I also left a smallish 3k punt invested from my last 667p buy. I don't mind where this goes. Just note that the Sp could retrace to the double bottom last summer, at around 589p. In case PFG does begin a new up-trend as from next Tuesday, I will probably buy back my former 30k Pounds in small chunks. Automated buys are adjusted and waiting in line :)) Very surprised that a 1 billion company can deflate like that. Its got to do with a certain agenda that some people in the city have against Woodford. All of those negative press attacks paired with attacks from PFG competitors and courtroom moves by former employees speak for itself. Also very odd is that Mrs Wolstenholme suddenly died. Adds to the odd picture. Lets hope for a rebound spike next week! if not, no hard feelings and try to get back in later, during the retrace to 589p and possibly 485p (shorters target).

Fastfood, who laughed...? Last year saw a wonderful trading possibility between 790 / 830 / 890 / 920 and 950p. Wasnt this when you laughed at PFG and its (short term) potential...? Eversince the breach of 914p and finally 880p, not many people kept holding. Eversince we've seen a little up-and-down wobbles, so I think some have used that for a little "punt". The latest bullish alert came when PFG tried to climb 720-735p, but never managed to do so. Some of us were trading these from 667p (entry) to as high as 730ish. Those trading opportunities came, and those opportunities have gone again. As for the moment I don't know many peeps who have a holding in here. Do you?

What I don't understand, danger145, is that the Sp does not have to break away after any announcement. The II's being 70-80% stakeholders can influence it much more than we think. ---------- '...it's not worth supporting the SP at his time since it's going to drop back down anyway after 27th Feb announcement.'

That nice 1.9M trade soon after 9 a.m. this morning is also helping :)) Right now the mentioned 0.51 - 0.53 barrier is being approached and climbed. Then rise to 0.60ish and 0.80ish

Very important opening price this morning, above 0.48 and cut through the massive 0.49-0.50 like butter! As for me, I was a yearlong EUA holder of a small punt, but topped up bigtime at the beginning of the week.

Another good thing to see is that some of the bullish trigger lines have aloso lowered from 10.80, now nicely lower to merely 10.70p and 10.40p. Next trading alert if these are climbed IMHO.

Troajan, thats nice to have you on bord too! Expect three days of share rise. The first 30% usually is followed by 40% or 25%. Anyhow, something is brewing here and we will find out soon. If the 0.49 barrier is climbed (confirmed at 0.53p), then rise to 0.85p and ppossibly 1.00p. Vol. Sold 18,348,623 Vol. Bought 21,503,612

Not many trades. Not much volume. But an never before seen downward pressure with the 658p breaching and this ridiculous new 640 ish region. One can only assume that something in the background is bothering the company. Vol. Sold 151,237 Vol. Bought 192,547 1,139 trades

Dogtyred, there was a time when these type of RNS caused a substantial uplift. Today its somewhat 9.90ish Maybe the US opening will assist...

Very weird situation. And very well explained, Danger. - One explanation is that not shorters, but private investors should be squeezed out, and the company will be taken over 100% by Invesco & Club. - One explanation could be that majority holders through their shorter consulting (Liberium capital) are hedging their own company, knowing that the more likely Sp should be 500 ish. - Another explanation is that on the chart the Sp wants to create a "double bottom" at last years low around 589p. - A sure thing fact is that someone suddenly stopped to support the share price, with the recent fallout, which is a total joke. --------------- "What really bugs me is with over 70% of the shares in the hands of a few major shareholders it would be so easy to put the squeeze on the shorters. So why are they not doing so? One possible explanation is that they anticipate (or already know ) that more bad news is on the way and are therefore unwilling to add to their current shareholding."

IMHO there will be a new long term buy alert when 0.50p are climbed. Then rise to 0.53 / 0.59 and 0.85p. Could happen at the opening on Friday. DYOR anyway! Great simple chart on LSE lse.co.uk/ShareChart.asp?sharechart=EUA&share=eurasia_mining

Difficult to get shares. But got to love this sudden 4% spread, wow! Ask: 0.49 You've asked for it :))

And now ranking #3 on todays LSE winners. Usually these kind of outbreaks see: 1. day: 30-39% rise 2. day: 30% rise 3. day 20% rise