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Trisor… please don’t say Cave is an innocent victim. I will vomit. Cave used other shareholders to get rid of Trevor Brown. Then … he grinned as Duffers and his options were passed. Thousands list huge sums of money. There is nothing defamatory. The defence is.. it is true.

Nobody supports ‘ringing Dr Cave’. However… let’s be honest…. He’s a bad businessman and an irrelevant ‘scientist’. People have lost tens of thousands of pounds. They are angry. Understandably so.

The ‘company’ is over.

Why hasn’t Cave apologised?

Utd Guy

Cave supported the appointment of Duffers and his warrants.

It was never in the interests of shareholders.

Cave has never been rinsed. He was just an irrelevant scientist and a bad businessman. He used us.

Stop defending him. He is as culpable as duffers.

Utd Guy

Cave supported the appointment of Duffers and his warrants.

It was never in the interests of shareholders.

Cave has never been rinsed. He was just an irrelevant scientist and a bad businessman. He used us.

Stop defending him. He is as culpable as duffers.

Sinden

I don’t support phoning Cave (or anyone else) and giving them grief.

The fact remains. Gareth Cave is a crook.

You can’t just blame Duffers. Cave was a big supporter of him (at one point) at the expense of shareholders.

Lots lost a fortune. Let’s not deify Cave. Please.

It is difficult to understand why Castle persisted in posting ‘positive’ posts here. He does the same in BRH. I’m not sure if he’s a ramper, a fool or just cruel. People could be influenced by his absurd posts.

Exactly Tuan. No point giving them more money. This shambles is over. Gareth Cave is a deceitful crook. Duffers is also a crook. There is no point giving them cash or trying to save this enterprise.

It has to go into liquidation - the business is not viable and staff cannot be paid in the absence of any meaningful revenue. It is astonishing how they squandered their millions in such a short period of time. I hope that Cave avoids business and saving the world and sticks to teaching Chemistry in an E Midlands Poly in future. I lost a fortune.

I’m sure that Cave DID benefit from a handsome salary. We may find out in due course. He wasn’t working for nothing to save the planet. It’s difficult to know who to blame due to the radio silence this last year. He was a board member - he must take his share of blame.

I don’t feel sorry for Cave. He used shareholders when it suited him to get rid of Trevor Brown. He also pumped the share and then went silent. His business skills are at best dubious. He produced a scientific product nobody wanted. He would have gained a huge amount if it had succeeded - he’s not a charity worker. He is no hero. Don’t blame the shareholders.

Castle

I struggle to understand why you continue to pump this share, day in and day out, knowing that it was about to go bust. Were you trading it?

The best thing to do with this share is to forget about it. At some point… in the next 6 months… it will be bought out. I am just going to wait and ignore the usual ups and downs in the interim.

It is absolutely absurd and wholly unethical to try and encourage anyone to buy this share. It has few sales and there is no evidence of future markets. Nobody is interested in its science and technology. Read the RNS - it is about to run out of money. Please, please do not waste money in this. I lost a fortune. I don’t want you to.

You are right ExMS

I also think it could be over within a week.

I don’t understand how it can continue this cash burn.

I think Cave did lots wrong, ExMS

He used shareholders to support him when he wanted to get rid of Trevor Brown.

He then stabbed shareholders in the back by supporting (1) another load of options for Duffers (2) the lack of communication with shareholders that has ensued since Duffers took over and (3) the enormous amount of money that is wasted each month to pay bloated salaries. He is a director and large shareholder so must share responsibility for all of these failures.

He is, as you rightly say, also held liable for the bigger boat comment. He is no businessman.

The oft quoted myth that Cave is a scientist who is not interested in money is misguided. He had an enormous stake in NNN. I acknowledge that he didn’t sell any… but he couldn’t. The share price would have crashed.

I agree with Silver that what people post on this bulletin board is irrelevant. If the company is performing (or perceived to be performing) the share price will rise regardless of what anyone says here. If the company is not performing (or not perceived to be performing) the reverse applies. So… there is no need for personal attacks. However, the uncomfortable reality (and I hold lots of shares) is that the market lacks confidence in MOS currently.

Toffee - I’m not stalking you. You said that your viewpoint is ‘easily provable’ by reading your posts. I just offered to provide examples, if you would like me to, by reading your posts.

Furthermore, you also misinterpreted what I said about the options. I didn’t say a 180% increase in share price is bad. I indicated that I don’t think it’s in the interests of long term holders.

You’re entitled to agree or disagree with me or anyone else. I just don’t get the bullying? Why does it help the share price if you aggressively put others down? Why not just state your opinions?

I’m not stalking you. You said that what you say is easily provable by reading your posts. So I offered to do that, if you would like me to, to give you examples.

I’m not trying to ‘get back at you’ and I am not supporting (or not supporting) anyone else. You attacked me - I responded if you read this thread. But… read your posts - they are aggressive and personal. If you want me to find you examples, I will.