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You're happy 10 new models will be released by 2023? That's 2 years away.
You're happy the sports car order book runs longer than the DBX order book, when AML needs DBX to sell 3000+ cars per annum?
You're deluded.

Positive hat:
Bankruptcy has been staved off for now, they have bought themselves time, and the share price had risen to reflect that. Buyers at the old 30p had a 50/50 chance of losing everything.
Of course the SP prices in future developments, but not pipe dreams. Most people investing will want to see if they deliver on the rhetoric. That's a while off and imho, why the share price is static now. It's fairly valued.
Stroll can rebadge Chinese clothes/handbags to luxury-lusting idiots, but he needs to do a lot more work than spout nonsense in the FT, for the SP to rise. The whole market is well up today and AML flat.
SPs rely on facts, not promises (the SP only overshoots in the short term, it ALWAYS reverts to true value)

My advice is to read all the comments on every FT AML article and that Karenable site, they know WAY more than us.
Listen to people who know more than you and learn from them. By the time things go Pete Tong in a market, you'll have lost a lot of cash.
I say this from experience/learning the hard way. It's so difficult to separate emotion from investing, especially something like AML.
Just because I want AML to succeed doesn't mean they will. Confirmation bias is a be-atch.

Jack, Merc have invested NOTHING!
AML GIFTED 20% of the company to Merc because they couldn't afford to do anything else. Irony is they still have to pay for every bit of Merc's tech, give away 20% of the company and what do they get in return?
£70 million of impairment charges were a write-down on AML's hybrid powertrain development. Plus £40 million write down on EV development.

How do you know Toto still holds his shares?
How many did Vettel buy, any proof?

Typo, 1839 wholesale, so 441 stands.
Thanks for the pedantry though, I'll assume you have nothing constructive to add.

I agree Carpy, I doubt everything I am invested in, because otherwise it's blind faith.
I lost count of the number of companies I was invested in in the past 25 years who's CEO claimed things that didn't materialise.
I want to be the first the see things others don't, it saves me money.

The whole point of me not posting my investment is because it doesn't tell you very much.
Ie, if I only had £5k pre results now I am up to £35k.
or if I had £110k and reduced to 35k.
it's all nonsense, and the reason we should be debating facts.

Carpy there is actually a way of knowing for sure.
The difference between wholesale and retail.
Wholesale was 1830 and retail was 1398, so that's 441 cars.

Thanks Carpy. I made the comment about figures because you said in your post "cant remember exact figure".
So, how many of the 483 sold in Q4 to APAC are cars to customers, and not just loading the dealerships with DBX models?

So your turn Jack, care to share some facts which show AML as a growing company?

I have £35k invested right now Jack.

Jack, just click on my username and look through all my posts.
Maybe you'll see how close I have been to calling most things on AML.

Give me the facts that show AML is a growing business Jack?
Strolls words are not facts.

Jack.
If you don't like, facts, filter me and live in your cosy echo chamber.
I have posted my position many times on here. Does it make ANY difference? You're still taking my word on it aren't you? Jeez.

@Noah,
I know fine well what PE ratios are. You need a profit to calculate them, otherwise they are negative values.
Previous management claimed DBX sales of 5000-6000 DBX per annum, now AML are saying 3000 per annum. That's half and they aint even managing that.

How many DBX have been sold to actual customer, not just dealers?

So now we know what Stroll means by "gangbusters".
Not quite back up to 2019 sales levels, which was a terrible year anyway.

Jack, only financial advisors are allowed to give out financial advice.
You can either believe the rampers on here, or the facts, your choice.

If you need someone else's opinion (as flattered as I am) then you probably shouldn't be invested in the markets.

AML 007, that's it, keep filtering folk you don't agree with, I am sure that will make you lots of money on the markets. *wink wink*.

Carpy, "can't remember the exact figures" Mick

This is DIRECT form the AML results:
Retails:
Q4 2019: 1854.
Q4 2020: 1398
Down 15%

Wholesales
Q4 2019 : 1923
Q4 2020: 1839
Down 4% but most were DBX sales to dealers as per my other posts today. NOT sales to customers.

Stop making numbers up out of your head.

Yeah, I suppose sales are going "Gangbusters' again.

Remember that quote from Stroll?
APAC sales were down 40% from last year, and he states Gangbusters.
His cheap hyperbole and marketing nonsense doesn't seem to be shifting the SP much.

Most shareholders have bailed as they know 2021 will be more terrible sales figures and more cash raising.
JP Morgan states AML will be burning through cash @ £200m per year for the next 2 years, what I have been saying all along.

https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/943098/aston-martin--still-a-few-years-away--from-turning-corner-jpmorgan-believes-943098.html

https://karenable.com/aston-martins-q4-full-year-2020-results/

"A few more interesting comments that did emerge on the DBX were the annual objective of selling 5-6000 units was a “prior management” goal. The current expectation for DBX wholesales in 2021 is around 3,000 units. To get there, Aston Martin will need to increase the Q4 2020 sales run rate by 25% in 2021"

So you’re not worried that orders for sports cars go through to September, but DBX orders only run to July?

DBX wholesales (AML to dealers) for Q4: 1171 cars
DBX retails (dealers to customers) for Q4: 593 cars.

AML are loading dealers with DBX, 578 of them in Q4 to be precise.
Most US dealers have 5/6 `DBX on their webpages, which means another 2 or 3 out back.
So much for “Build to order’.

@deepblue, thanks!
I can see the company listed on IG, just no sign of my IPO shares from Primary Bid showing up.

I can't see anything in my IG account, did you have to do anything to make them available, or was it all automatic from primary bid transferring to IG?

Great post, thanks for taking the time to help!