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what would a company with 500,000 euro a month be valued at the company initially would show very little if any profit

Valuing a company with *€500,000 in monthly revenue (€6 million annually)* but little to no profit depends on several factors, including industry, growth rate, market conditions, and investor sentiment. Here’s a rough breakdown of how it could be valued on the stock market:

### *1. Revenue Multiples Approach*

Since the company isn’t profitable yet, investors typically value it based on revenue rather than earnings.

- *Tech / SaaS Companies:* Often valued at *5x-15x annual revenue*

- *E-commerce / Consumer Goods:* Typically *1x-5x revenue*

- *Traditional Businesses (Retail, Manufacturing):* *0.5x-3x revenue*

If your company is a fast-growing tech firm, it might be valued at *€30M-€90M* (5x-15x revenue).

If it’s in a lower-margin business, the valuation might be closer to *€3M-€18M*.

### *2. Market Conditions & Growth Potential*

- If investors see strong future growth, they’ll pay a premium.

- If revenue is stagnant and costs are high, the valuation will be lower.

Would you like to estimate this more precisely based on your industry?

In the *payments sector, especially one handling **crypto and fiat bridges*, valuations can be quite high due to the potential for scalability and market disruption.

### *Valuation Estimates Based on Revenue Multiples:*

- *Fintech & Payments Companies* typically trade at *5x-20x annual revenue*, depending on growth potential and regulatory risks.

- *Crypto-Related Companies* often see higher multiples (10x-30x revenue) if they show strong adoption and transaction volume.

### *Your Estimated Valuation:*

With *€6M annual revenue*, potential valuations could range from:

- *Conservative (5x Revenue):* *€30M*

- *Mid-Range (10x Revenue):* *€60M*

- *High Growth (20x Revenue):* *€120M*

If your company has a *strong user base, recurring transaction fees, and regulatory clarity*, you might attract valuations toward the higher end.

Discuss :)

They seemed very happy to break 100k eurc in January , now in February have done 2x that in first 2 weeks , looks good to me, still a way short as of yet of the £70m they were talking about annually for dtransfer back in 2021,

Roughly 100k eurc a week , albeit low margins, however proof is there that it works and is being used in volume, now to scale it !!!

Agree NtD , the next RNS will be interesting

£10k doesn’t mean squat, certainly hope many multiples of £10k buys after next RNS, especially if vortex “actively working on it” from visa and Mastercard perspective results in one or both onboarding, let’s hope we hear something soon from blue star or vortex

Think it’s overdue now that we are advised state of play with regards how satoshipay Vortex raise has gone , this was Q 4 last year now , blue star has raised funds to invest in satishipay or vortex , Vortex seems to be doing very well indeed

Would be interested to know how much vortex raised and at what price, also how and when and if blue star participated

I got in touch with a guy called Florian at Vortex to ask as to the state of Visa & Mastercard....

he suggested Vortex are " actively working on it"

asked him to define soon. ;)

And i suppose its not just about the revenue that it "earns" for now, its the IP and the value of the product as it is used on more platforms.

Eur 20k a day is certainly not be sniffed at , for now !!!

market really should be catching onto this !!

We need Vortex news , we do not want to be hanging around for months on end.

not interested in snippets from investees, we had that with dysentry and pendulum , look where that got us, ZERO

we ned to know;

1.. state of Vortex raise, it was first touted in October,

2.. when do Mastercard / Visa arrive, please do not say "soon"

3.. 96k EURC in one month is a start, but Dtransfer when it was "shelved" in 2021 was a £70m a year system and growing ... Vortex is getting excited by £96k... £70m is nearly £6m a month... 96k is not £6m

4.. what is purpose behind Mr Benn investment.

I certainly hope you are proven correct ICB888

we await the real surge as Visa and Mastercard are confirmed.

Agree Steamy , mentioned previously about Slater and him arguably making more through Blue Star corporate actions than through share price appreciation. understand what you mean about 0.6, though

agree about Lew, he managed to take Guild down too.

TF a man of decency and integrity, however he should have been pushing Satioshipay and Dysentry much harder in past few Years, prior to the SP implosion, how we ended up in the position we have with Dysentry still fails me, thats one hell of a balls up from 2021. most had expected dysentry to be a £200m mkt cap company. its now one percent of that, after the Vox podcast 2021, we expected a great deal more, they failed massively.

i think we all know its last throw of the dice for Blue Star AND Satoshipay, both should be "put down" if Satoshipay fails again. , however this time Benn has a stake... could it be Blue Star succession planning / RTO planning , or investment ahead of a huge product launch (VORTEX / Dtransfer) with massive trading partners and crypto micropayments to come?

Who knows !!

share price could be Zero , could be £1.... place your bets !!!!

£1 buyout = £32m mkt cap for blue star = approx £100m Satoshipay valuation.

when you have crapto companies with mkt caps in the billions, its not beyond possibility that Satoshipay £100m , however unlikely

i feel sure neither Benn or Lew know of definitive buyout prior to market purchase.

problem with Blue Star , as many have mentioned, is we get news one month, then nothing for another 4 months.

Indeed it does clearly state VIsa / Mastercard "coming soon" on the Vortex website, which would be excellent.

we had issues with the word soon with another Satoshipay spinoff though, Pendulum, such that after many months , nay Years we asked them to define the word soon. ;)

this aside, agree Momo , if/when visa and mastercard "join" then its happy days

Indeed NtD.. agree...

i am sure TF will not make the same mistake again... this is it for Blue Star,,, he needs a result... Dtransfer was the play back in 2020, see the RNS i linked yesterday... it has transitioned into the value play now... this is the ONLY reason Benn and Lew have increased shareholding IMHO... they ,without question, know far more about the project and its reach and potential than we do.

I suppose after the several years of Satoshipay failure to monetise anything, there is always one time by luck or otherwise that it gains traction ... and one imagines with Satoshipay realisation that this will be the last throw of the dice for them... they must have it working and gaining traction ASAP.

first and foremost, totally understand where you are coming from DaveTK,

two things give me a modicum of confidence this time.

1... Dtransfer was/is the product that was working and had commercial users back in 2020/21 , meinharrdd benn and TF were shouting from the rooftops that Dtransfer was working , it had users and they expected many more users going forward... RNS of 15 December 2020; excerpt below

https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/BLU/update-on-satoshipay-investment-cyho2nnqj28857b.html

"Meinhard Benn, CEO of SatoshiPay commented, "We are very pleased with progress made in 2020, particularly in the B2B cross-border money transfer space by launching our new service DTransfer. We are seeing strong market interest and have signed 11 business clients from around the world, expecting to transfer over £70m annually using DTransfer. This is just the start, as new clients are being added every month. It feels like we have created a hit product and we will endeavour to build recurring revenues in 2021.""

"it feels like we have created a hit product" ...... why on earth did they shelve it only to revisit it many years later?

2... Meinhardd Benn purchasing 8.3% NOW , why now, if not for Vortex (Dtransfer) as above?

i think what must happen now, is that IF they have found a niche product and have first mover advantage... ive seen others that are marketing gimmicks that don't offer the full range of financial products / risk options that Vortex do, then they should damn well get on with it, commercialise it, get partners, get moving... prove the product and get paypal, wise, visa, mastercard etc on board.

i did like the idea that Mr Benn had started micropayments for crypto , seems a good idea and its about time micropayments were adopted industry wide rather than antiquated paywalls that act akin to trading in a turd on encountering them.

my thoughts, for what they are worth, happy to share now the outrageous ramping of the last few days has ended.

Correct !!

and competitors?

Good to know Nah42, can you post a link.

do you know of any competitor to Vortex offering? such that we can ascertain a potential ball park valuation

I would really like to see new retail investors in this stock, however they are only going to be inspired to invest by solid news...

the RNS that advises why Mr Benn purchased 8.3% and would be great to know what price he purchased at !

also we now need the Vortex news... have further funds been raised for Vortex, what price? , who are partners...what is it valued at , what implied value can it give Satoshipay...

With regards my previous post earlier in month, about making money from corporate actions.

have a read below

https://www.sharesoc.org/blog/regulations-and-law/forward-selling-a-crime-against-shareholders/

And of course pendulum was the fastest selling Parachain ever., another sh5t show !!

i'm not aware of any AI association for BLU or any of its investee's.