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Was NANO a patent play VfM?

not sure apples with apples, however don't disagree with your take on this.

if Satoshipay can come out with something of value (FX market), and they haven't monetised ANY of their projects yet, incredibly their only successful "hit product" they shelved. (DTransfer)

however if they could and get sentiment on their side for a month, they could easily do a Quantum, Blockchain or GSTechnologies, i have mentioned these companies many months ago.

Need Dynasty to sign deals or IPO

Need substantive progress from Satoshipay (partnerships/investment)

then BLU can progress,

without it its the status quo, an absolute sh5t fest

Its a fair comment @slug, they have missed 3 self imposed targets this Year, with Spacewalk on Pendulum and Nabla

we still dont know whats happened to Dtransfer, the "holy grail" "hit product" back in 2021.

i see ragnarr's point too, who seems very relaxed about this, my experience in business is when a project milestone has been moved / missed more than twice, there needs to be a change of project manager.

we had expected the Forex AMM in Q1 '23

we had expected $PEN to be a massive success, but they managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of of victory

to my mind where i do not necessarily agree with @ragnarr, it should never have been the case of waiting until Q1/2 2024, those aspects of the project should have been delivered prior to H2 2023, building market position ahead of Q1/2 '24.

as ever, its all taking far far too long, same with Dynasty, it drags on Year after Year.

TF has put the ball in the court via Satoshipay valuation, they know BLU will want out at the right price, Satoshipay starting to look good, however how long can you wait and with the possibility nay probability of ever recurring delays, why would you wait?

Dynasty , in same position, radio silence, for now, since 2021

the only positive, is that BLU always outperforms in period Nov - January.

if we can get above 0.2-03 prior to January, which seems to me fair value, then it provides investors with a decision, wait for continued growth, as the project finally matures, the FX side is so exciting..... or take the money and run.

I sincerely hope he gets the companies to a position where valuation outs by Q1 '24 , he has alluded to as much in the last RNS.

its been an absolute disaster of a Year thus far, promised so much , delivered jack schmitt, SO FAR !!

it only needs Dynasty to raise and that implies a valuation.

Satoshipay valuation will arrive as potential suitors offer bids.

0.35-0.5 and there will be a rush for the exit, unless Nabla (FX) gains traction

IPO market still "restrictive" sadly, has opened a little (selective behemoths ARM etc) but not so much for speculative side of market,

Dynasty may be able to, raise / list once interest rate cuts , Q1/Q2 '24.

This is when everyone chirps that they "topped up yesterday"

always makes me chuckle whenever i see this.

What's he done with the can?

that can has to be a record holder for the most kicked ever?

however, as he loaned funds from the company to buy more TALLY stock using his railsbank shares, rainsbank are now worth squat.

given his record lets sell the Decc an stock before the same happens ;)

will he not have to sell part of his Tally holding to repay said loan?

good old scameron, odds on a relisting, given his previous record ?

with regards the opinion of a majority of investors, it could be argued, forgive my alliterations, that scameron is a crook , conman and a charlatan.

Dont think we will see 1p.

however i am sure no one expected the gains being seen from Quantum Blockchain or GS technologies, up multiples within a week.

what is to say that on a reasonable FX announcement that Blue Star can not do the same. ?

just as you see stocks fall rapidly at highs, you se them "snap back to the mean" at the lows

BLU's NAV was 0.20 as of last results RNS even without a revaluation of Satoshipay and Dynasty.

to my mind that ( 0.2) has to be an initial target and i for one will be happier once we've regained that.

@slugmum

i offered what i thought constructive criticism on the Pendulum Community channel.

dukee is aware of my background, thus i was happy to offer strong thoughts to Pendulum.

i am impressed with what they have come up with so far, but will only be happy once they have launched Nabla, PendulumPay (rebranded Dtransfer) and Spacewalk on Pendulum.... this should make Satoshipay / Pendulum very valuable considering the refloating of the "crypto wreck".

i have made regular purchases of $PEN and Blue Star - Blue Star ... sadly at prices i had never hoped to see again, such are financial markets.

(most on here will remember i am no fan of crypto)) i do however see the value and possibilities of FX market disruption.

i would like to see a very swift and substantial recovery in the Blue Star stock price, its overdue.

i would also very much like to see the seller, whomever he/she is, cease and desist.

atb

blu

@ragnarr

just about to ask same question re polkadex

should see some recovery as we move forward into Q4

its taken far longer than many expected, if we can get back to 0.2 in reasonable order then build ahead of valuation process then that will be fine.

with what seems to be happening with regards the crypto market, will provide a much better bias towards positive Satoshipay valuation.

You beat me to it ragnarr !!

HOWEVER, fair play to you Gazzle.

everyone must follow their own beliefs and processes, if that's yours then that's up to you.

i post my thoughts, it enables me to gain clarity in my own process and post what i believe might be a way forward, i am not looking for validation or following, i could not give a care.

as ive posted many times, i realise better than most, its just me versus the market.

@Gazzle

Why would anyone not believe Dynasty IPO was forthcoming, they were doing this in Q4 2021. then came war, cost of living, intertest raters, IPO market locked. etc...

a company such as Dynasty need the IPO to facilitate expansion.

i for one believe it is a must in the short term, now IPO market has reopened .

we will soon see.

Do you remain of same belief that Dynasty IPO Q1 '24 @londonnorthwest ?

i really hope so... for a Year that promised so much ... it has delivered so much sh5t

would imagine TF is on his prayer mat as of now, cant imagine many communications with him from shareholders have been pleasant, even though he can do very little, he is CEO of Blue Star Capital..

the only positive is that with every week that passes we get closer to the sales process/ valuation of Satoshipay and the possibility that Dynasty will confirm the IPO they alluded to in Q4 2021.

@ragnarr

"Slug /Blu - perhaps the current management have learnt - who knows.😀"

indeed, i am certainly hoping so. :)

with regards Nabla, as dukee will know from my conversations with him, it is perceived Nabla have learned a hell of a lot from the PEN launch.

Nabla is the massive opportunity.

i am hopeful we go much higher from here, we are at long term support, levels we saw pre pandemic with not nearly the IP potential there is now, so... higher from here.

atb

blu

@gazzle

very good point !!

@ragnarr

its easy to focus on the future if the company had merely had a one off issue or one product that failed to monetise, sadly with Satoshipay every product has failed the monetisation acid test, compound this with delays and mistakes and one does not have sound grounds for investment.

Satoshipay /pendulum must get the project management resolved, they released a new roadmap, several months ago after they missed timelines, they are now missing timelines again and will need to issue a NEW new roadmap.

you of course see the point and IF they were listed , this kind of oversight would send the stock plummeting ( even more than BLU already does and has) !!

i see FX as the last chance saloon for Pendulum/Satoshipay, i sincerely hope they get Nabla launched successfully in Q4 , $PEN tuned out to be a disaster (but thankfully seems to be recovering now)

the transfero links you posted looks encouraging, but they need to be monetised on the Satoshipay front

@ragnarr

lets hope that it actually leads to traction for one of Pendulum/Satoshipay products

as @slug has alluded to many times, NOTHING has been monetised thus far in a decade of trying, they have been serial failures with their market product

if they can not gain traction in FX, that's it , they are done !! hence TF hedging the sale, take something now rather than risking zero, or allow an institution to purchase to keep Satoshipay/Pendulum "honest" and finally get something for Satoshipay , the thought provoking here is the statement from the board of the last several Years that "it is the boards belief that Satoshipay value may have increased materially", its vague but the sentiment is there, however, has it ?

at worst we should get at least what we hold it at.

i totally see ragnarrs point, being innovative in this sector takes time, however, its 8 Years now for Satoshipay and whilst they have received grants and spent a lot on bringing products to market their return (traction) has been modest to nil.

the jury is out on Satoshipay, a verdict arrives very soon !!

Dynasty , well we have awaited news all Year, it borders on the ridiculous to be blunt.

TF stated valuations before year end , see the last VOX markets podcast, or indeed listen to it.

Q4 arrives within a couple of weeks, we now need a couple of valuations to revive the "patient" that is Blue Star Capital.

@ragnarr

good spot, many thanks

have posted many times, it only takes 1 institution of medium size to get on board with this, or to think why reinvent wheel, to purchase the delay ridden pendulum/satoshipay etc and you get a reasonable chunk of change.

£20m is pocket change to institutions. i really do want to see Nabla succeed, disappointing there is a delay, so a NEW new roadmap will have to be delivered.

Satoshipay/Pendulum are as bad at project management and meeting timelines as they are at monetisation of their products.

@DaveTK ;)

@gazzle

filtered the chump wadanobba and some of his cronies many moons ago.

antagonistic and not worthy of time or consideration, never posts anything substantive, others such as chester exactly same, leave them to their vitriol.

@slug , you are getting a little emotional, understandable to a degree, no LTH is happy about this .. pre pandemic levels have returned to a stock that even the most bearish could not argue that progress has not been made on the IP front. but the issue remains, figures, contract wins, revenue details are required.

1... what is Satoshipay worth?

2... what is Dynasty worth?

BLU hold Satoshipay on books, at the current market cap of BLU as a whole.

GILD has risen in price (even though its a crock)

PEN will rerate as the whole ecosystem comes together ( Nabla (FX AMM), PendulumPay (FX settlement and cross border payment and Pendulum Spacewalk)

Its still as puzzling as it was back in June/July as to why we've heard nothing from Dynasty yet.

@LondonNorthWerst seems to have thoughts on that.

we were promised news in Q4 and at latest Q1 2024, it had better arrive in a positive manner.

it is taking and has taken far too long !!

and of course , don't forget , the tone will change very quickly once news does arrive and everyone is a little calmer.

these episodes when one holds a stock, are never pleasant. if you no longer perceive value or your reason for holding has changed, sell , if not hold.

my musings FWIW

atb

blu

@ragnaar

good to see you back.

not sure you expected to see $PEN down here, thankfully recovering as i expect it to do further once Nabla comes on board to provide an "ecosystem" for the FX side of things ..... price, execution and settlement

its been an annus horribilis for BLU thus far, much better things were expected and still are.

TF has to deliver the valuations, however he has to await the investees delivering the products and revenues.

i am sure many understand and share the frustrations of @slugmum et al

incredible to see BLU at theses levels once again, no news equals drift ... we await the much anticipated and promised Q4 news

Probably best @ragnarr answers that one Gazzle

@slug

100% agree.

dukee is confident it will be, it needs to gain attention and traction, then and only then do Blue Star shares jump , from a sotoshipay perspective at least.

Dynasty is more nailed on , they are obviously executing well with Googly in india, with other contributors too, it still puzzles me as to why no IPO announcement yet, that will come though.