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... and as with banks, any UK company making profit, whilst our country is filled daily with the worlds impoverished, will be a 'target' for HMG to steal such to fund the worlds chancers now.

We have seen it with PPI, now car DCA taking billions to fund the high street, and all the time there are images shown on the BBC of nere do wells in 'poverty', such profits will be not hailed as good news, but as greed gained from the 'suffering' of others to persuade a dim public that any taking of profits by HMG is just and fair.

So don't get too excited, I expect a one off windfall tax will be coming shortly but last a lot longer than 'once'.

Re: "Birdsong you are an idiot."

Yet most of you on here, assuming that the banks would rush to fight the FCA decision, were sooo very wise, and astute.... not.

The endless posts of the case being laughed out of court etc etc.

EVERYTHING I said would happen, has. Fact is, you were wrong, and you can't as always, come up with anything other than insults, as you know, I was correct on what I said would occur.

HMG gets what it wants and it will be the shareholders funding the UK economy whilst HMG pleases the masses with a little windfall, not from getting into more debt or having to rob the public, just a few naive shareholders, aka as YOU.

Posted 8 Apr 2026 09:03

As Dylan would have nasal growled " I've known it all the time, you're learning it these days"

My point being that CBG have not challenged the FCA, and despite all the flaws imo they will roll over and accept, knowing they can afford it.

That has been my point all along, I never have predicted the s.p, but my predict has been that HMG will get what it wants, the high street funded from shareholders cash, despite the facts that Knot has spent hours researching and finding many genuine flaws, that, end of the day, it is easier for banks to put up and shut up, as the shareholders will fund it, not they.

So like the Great President, it is me who has won the point, not those expecting a fight in court to reduce our payouts. So far the HMG has used the FCA to get what it always wanted. The economy funded, but not to the extent that faith in the UK was lost to investors. Only the share price has changed, which I never said it wouldn't.

No need for apologies for all your insults, knowing I was right is more than enough for me.

... and direction, one would have assumed real holders here, would have more pressing issues than Nuclear war to discuss.

The BoE have stated that shares are over priced, helping our demise, despite no doubt being true. President Trump is going to understandably punish those who refused to aid the US, and almost certainly impose larger tariffs on us greater than what we gain from due to digital tariffs we impose on them.

Inflation will ruin the weak UK economy slowly but surely, businesses struggling now, will suffer, unemployment will grow, less paying in taxes, more taking out benefits of our own, let along boat loads arriving daily to add greatly to our stealth taxes to fund them with everything as they arrive as do their numerous offspring with nothing.

Whilst Lloyds et al scrape the barrel by using 'dead accounts' cash to fund homeless, such amounts are tiny compared to the truly 'never ending' number of arrivals which will all eventually be living in a very costly to build building, which we will all be funding, and, even IF charity funds some, then that charity money is diverted away from other needy causes to fund such, most of whom have not legal right to be here.

Only people like President Trump's illegal issues bother some it seems.

So with the UK to face all the above and more, then Lloyds dividend yield being lower than investors can get without risk of capital reduction, should they buy in now, makes one wonder who is buying apart from the buyback machine. Best stick a turbo on it to raise the demand as people dump stock which is closely linked to the UK's near future.

Wait until the feral youth can 'use' high unemployment as the reason they steal, shoplift, and eventually riot, as all the time there was full employment should you 'want' work, they could not, but come the massive slump, electrical stores and trainers shops will become very popular as they unwillingly have 'self service' for certain members of society to vent their worry of not being able to find a job all too soon.

Labour doing what it does best, funding the lowest denominator by sapping wealth from anything and everything which did make ends meet, until that fails too.

Yet you can be sure the Gov members will all have investments, homes and means to avoid what they create here and what they dump on the British people.

Still don't let domestic, relevant issues worry you, when the unlikely danger of nuclear war, which like Covid, effects all, so the leaders and elite will do all they can to prevent such ever happening, as for ONCE, their money, and status won't prevent 'them' getting harmed, and 'THAT' really is all they care about, themselves.

when we were children, the beach at appley on the isle of wight was very popular, but at low tide, the sandbanks would stretch out towards portsmouth for well over half a mile and very wide. we used to get ****les there, yet the amount of raw sewage including condoms, and solid lumps of doo doo were more often found than not on these sand banks.

when we swam, there was often a persistent 'floater' which try as you might to swim away from it, seemed to always follow in your votex.

the old victorian sewer pipe was too short or not meant for the volumes then put through it.

don't think we suffered any ill effects, but i guess some may well of done. least it was visible and not mashed to an invisible pulp.

happy childhood memories of school hols in the uk.

lloyds looking nervous price wise, but so is bp, so unsure if it is war related, as one is normally up as the other drops, but maybe peeps pricing in the after effects of the economic damage from an ever longer war.

let's hope it is all worth it in the end.

Phy, every seller has to have a willing buyer, and vv. So the numbers of sells and buys are guesses.

What I will say, especially in such volatile times, many hold for the good div payout, then sell up as a long time for the 'big one' to pay out again, and use the cash to buy shares which have been punished during the war, IF they think the war is likely to end soon.

Whereas LGEN never dropped much, so won't rise much should the war end.

Of course much of LGENS recent rise was due to the know big pay day, but now thats gone, then why hold for months when the bravery than me can use the capital to trade other volatile shares, and STILL get in again to LGEN, knowing the s.p is unlikely to have moved greater than the amount they hope to have made in the mean time.

The buybacks will help of course by buying up those getting out, keeping the s.p slightly higher than it otherwise may be with buyers getting rid, because as I said, every seller has to have a buyer, so the buyback machine mops up unwanted cast offs each day, otherwise the share price would have to drop lower to temp 'others' to buy in. So sort of a fake support in a way.

Crumbs, Niharoy will mess himself when he gets wind of this.

Hilarious that many thought a case would be to get the amount reduced, and some even thrown out, yet it end up being a stand to try to get more. HMG will love that, more money into those in poverty to spend in the flagging UK economy, without, for once, HMG having to fund it, only 'greedy' bank shareholders.

NO even I don't think it will get anywhere, but it is funny after all the hype the other way.

Let's hope Niharoy had plenty of new undies for xmas!

Re: "Hello, I'm new to L&G I would be interested in people's thoughts on weather it would be better holding for the dividend or selling at close of play today and hoping the share drops lower than the dividend payment and then buying back tomorrow"

That is the worst 'spell' of 'whether' we have had in a long time!

Sorry couldn't resist, have been waiting years to say that, after seeing it on an old Benny Hill prog.

Re: " Barclays is currently using only about 5% to 8% of the daily market volume, leaving approximately 17% to 20% of additional capacity (nearly 5 million more shares per day) untouched within safe regulatory bounds."

Would the reason why Barcs are not buying up to the 25% levels allowed more likely be because they expect Lgen to drop by a significant amount, and so they will then be able to buy up far more shares with the money allocated?

For if they assumed that during a war, that the share price was undervalued, then surely they would be buying up to the max allowed per day?

Also, Re; "Dividend Adjustment Opportunity: When LGEN goes ex-dividend tomorrow, the share price will technically drop by the dividend amount (15.67p). This price adjustment, combined with the ongoing geopolitical sentiment from the Iran conflict, offers a "value" window for the broker to deploy capital more efficiently

When I asked the same question of ' Surely it makes sense to buy the shares ex div day when they are 'normally' cheaper by the sum of the div paid, most all said it makes no difference, even when I suggested that no, year one it doesn't, as you miss the div, but all the following years you are 'in' at a lower break even price, by the sum of the div, thus ought to gain, it was said not to be the case.

So, with that in mind, how come it is beneficial for Barc's to do so and gain more for their bucks, but not a pi like myself.

Goose for the saucy Gander..?

So expect 253 to cover div loss, then add a fair bit more loss due to many selling up as a long time to await the next decent div again, adding to the low of the day appeal to forgo div, and buy cheaper to gain in subsequent years, not just this one for lth's.

Last para, read US will win not Iran, that is the price one pays for not using AI to do the heavy lifting!

Asimpleinvestor, Re: "non-democratic regimes face a different existential threat: the risk of systemic collapse when the state can no longer provide basic subsidies"

That is now surely what President Trump is relying on happening in Iran. A fragmentation of the leadership as the collapse of Iran's infrastructure damage creates pressure for not only the innocent citizens, but those higher in the 'food' or lack of chain.

IF the US and it's one ally had not taken out so much of the infrastructure, but doing so as humanly as is feasible in war to do so mostly to anything connected with the military first, and leaving the bridges, damns, water purifiers, energy grids etc, as the President said, he has been nice so far, and has left the latter as the Ace card IF the Iranians stick instead of seeing they are bust.

Of course they will cling to power for as long as they can, but the gamble is now will they be able to do so with a battered nation, knowing it could become even more so at the whim of one man, who either is, or pretends very well to be unpredictable in the extreme.

Most people when disaster strikes, eventually just want their old life back, as imperfect as it was. Perhaps religion and absolute power alters the leaders there to differ, or perhaps they fear for their lives should they weaken and the country rise up against them. But the tension, fear, and future uncertainty of their nation, their position within that nation must be extreme, as it must be for the ordinary citizens living with similar fears and worse shortages.

I doubt the President or the citizens of the US are under that much fear and pressure, just miffed at filling up the gas tank.

So, I think the US can hold out far far longer than Iran can, and the world wants it over, but for the same reason the POTUS don't attack Russia or China, who is going to challenge the US, to end their economic cost increases when the near broken Iran would be an easier state to pressure to 'end' the misery for the wider world.

Hence I feel Iran not the US will 'win' but as Trump is so hated, it blinkers peoples view and so people only look for the obvious flaws, problems and mistakes made by the US, whist ignoring the greater 'plight' of Iran's future.

Time as always will tell, but as to who 'won' people still question seeing Germany v the UK , did 'we' or they win.

Whilst I understand that Iran can for a while effect much of the worlds economies, then to me, that will be its downfall. For whilst democratic countries can and will vote out leaders once they are media led to push all the 'blame' onto one person for their increased costs, those countries who do not have the, albeit dubious, chance of voting in a leader with a different views don't.

So as much of the world is effected to the negative by Iran's unwillingness to cave, much of the world will turn even more so against them, and the pressure for those so called leaders, will be intense. It is not as though they were the most popular state, even in the M.E, let alone elsewhere.

Those who did support them likely did so only on what they gained economically from them, oil in other words.

As one minute the media wish us all to believe that oil demand is falling, then much of the 20% loss, ought to be absorbed by the 'lack of demand' due to the green energy hype, UNLESS of course that was all lies too.

We could both chose a 'side' or viewpoint and then justify our stance to some degree, we could go to London and make a documentary about the absolute wealth, or the absolute poverty there. Both have merit, but the reasons for the two would be very wide ranging, and with this war, just because the President is understandably hated by so many, doesn't mean that everything the US are doing is going to have a FUTURE lasting positive effect for the West, but doing nothing may well have.

Where 'we' differ, is I admit I don't know, whereas you seem to be so sure on everything you post creating the impression that your character ironically resembles some Trump like traits. Not in the positive way imo.

But thanks for polite replies as nastiness is uncalled for as only opinions.

Re "once confirm that iran is a no show then it will get worse"

Unfortunately for everyone, I think that this needs to get worse, and far worse, before it can ever hope to get 'better'.

With two vastly different mindsets at loggerheads, then one has to be beaten and hard into submission.

Whilst some question who is 'winning' the fact that America has all it's infrastructure fully intact, its people safe, its leaders safe and living in luxury, then compare what Iran has, then I would say so far the US are 'winning'.

Sure Iran will indiscriminately kill innocent, and soldiers and get lucky and no doubt take out some meaningful targets like ships or planes, but that is to be expected, but don't mean because they do such, or if they bide their time and do a twin tower type world horror attack that they have 'won'. In fact it means they lost and have to hit back at innocents to try to appease their followers that they still hold some power. But likely POTUS knows that and if he has sense will destroy everything their as not only an example to Iran, but the the watching hardline eyes of China, Russia, Korea etc. To back out now would be a larger mistake than getting even more heavy handed imo.

Hard for those killed injured who don't want any part of this, but such is war, the UK should know, we had years of our innocence being killed yet now, as with Trump ONLY one figure, Hitler is hated whilst the rest on both sides, kiss and are all pals know, that is the idiocy of war, but it has to happen and their has to be a winner. But of course their will always be casualties during and after the war is said to be over.

Still BP will rise, but not as much as this falls, so I would rather it was settled now, but what we want and what we get are very different animals.

.. being the lead baboon, forcasting the market drop to engulf most all shares if President Trump does still have the metal to bring the Iranians to their senses and showing the closely watching world, best not to upset America, least not until a wishy washy sit and take the money, without rocking the boat leader is next elected.

Or perhaps more UK specific news which drags the co-joined Lloyds down with it, yet to be released to the lesser people holding shares until the informed are out.

Time will tell.

Seem to have heard the same 'story' with PM's, only a month or so ago, especially Silver. That was going up and up, the Asian guy vids, were convincing all, along with the ever higher prices that Silver was running out, the stored reserves were being depleted now, and current mining of such could not meet future demand as AI computers, Solar panels etc were demanding far more than could be met, and the price was going to go ballistic when the future markets demanded 'delivery' rather than the usual 'rolling over' of future contracts.

That all came to nothing too, despite proof of paper price of silver being far lower than 'then' the true price of buying silver. But silver soon came back down, higher than it was, but not as high as the hype pushed it to.

Fraud and manipulation works both ways, and one camp will sell a very convincing story on one side, and the other side will do the same.

Akin to hearing both defence and prosecution cases when YOU have already decided on guilt or innocence as to which you want to trust in.

The rest of us see both sides but are 'don't knows' as markets can be swayed for as long as it takes.

So whilst the doom and gloom believers trust oil will go ever higher, the others will feel it will retreat to somewhere back to where it was, and the truth is likely to be somewhere in between, the somewhere is what the price will be at the pump and what the price of our BP shares will be, but my take is not as low as it was, but not some hyped price either.

Think how much rewnewable energy is out there now compared, think how less oil is being used than it was, and remember it is only a fifth of world consumption passing the SoH and it can go the long way round, and people will cut back due to the price, and other countries will pump more, so the 20% will not be such in reality. Markets are being played by everyone, not just the patsy figure of President Trump.

Lloyds and the UK may eventually discover that illegal invasion and serious crimes by the perpetrators of such effects it less than those actions being carried out closer to home than the M.E by one or two people.

Thank you for all replies very interesting.

Yet my point being IF the s.p drops on ex div day, whilst you lose the div if buying so are no better off or worse off THAT YEAR, you surely are gaining in every subsequent years, as your stock bought is then 15p less than it would have been if you bought in pre ex day, so more shares, lower price so higher yield, and lower break even for as long as you then hold them over the subsequent years?

I know that shares don't always drop by the amount, etc BUT IF all else is equal then does the above not make sense?

Re "The BBC has found a pattern of spikes in trades on financial markets ahead of public announcements by US President Donal Trump, including during the Iran war."

The President said he was going to make America great again, not the world. So by gaining billions in trading and increased oil exports and people buying the US dollar then doing ok as early days still.

How by the way is the woke BBC's Great Britain fairing ?

For can read can't.

Bed now, a miserable day tomz for us invested here, again. But better than living in Iran, atm, anyway, give Labour enough time and it may be as edgey living here.

STP, agree it was a shame, but the shame may be that 'he' needed to poke the nest, IF Iran was indeed a future threat to world peace by having a nuclear device.

Whilst we all can trust anything we hear on either sides claims, it does seem to me to be odd that Iran would and has risked losing so much 'just' to make nuclear fuel for purposes 'other' than a bomb. Not as though as a nation they are short of oil, or they don't get much sun to go green when their oil is all gone.

So perhaps the POTUS had it on good authority that they are indeed hell bent on creating a bomb, and so felt if no one else had the gumption to 'poke' the nest, HE alone would. Innocents may well get stung, but IF his assumptions are right, better that that many innocent Americans are nuclear victims in the near or distant future in his eyes. For unlike our leaders, Tump loves his country and his people, and that is why and what he was voted in to do, put them first, not second, not equal but FIRST, and he is trying to do just that, immorally, illegally, perhaps, but no matter if the motives are right

Issue is I don't know what to believe as none on here do, but seeing how people fear living in Iran, speaking to Iranian asylum seeker who showed me photos of people murdered by the iranian Gov, I put my faith in the US, not Iran, even if the POTUS is weird.