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"ignoring the doom mongers for whatever their selfish reasons may be"

Selfish?

People trading in ways they may make money, selfish? Now that insight in to your thinking speaks volumes. Are they all out to get you?

"highly likely you have taken a short position on POLY which is currently not delivering for you. "

I have no facility to do 'shorts'. Never have, and never will. It is a leveraged trade from what I can tell and definitely not for me.

As for the rest of the ranting AT me personally, you prove my point about wishing to distract people from issues you and your friends would rather pis did not consider.

And you are knowingly provoking and inciting to keep the anti big blue wagon rolling, day in day out, keep the wool pulled over pi's eyes.

[sigh]

No offence taken swag, I merely expanded my thinking.

"No number of insults will get rid of him"

The sum total of much posted on here.

I often wonder what is tattooed on the knuckles of various posters on here. It was very obvious on the IAG board.

" but you do like the sound of your own voice and are probably retired and have little else to do............................"

You just can't help yourselves can you? You all keep saying I am the problem, the issue, the disruption. But for gawds sake you lot just can't hold any kind of debate or discussion without immediately dragging it down to some personal mud slinging abuse inciting more of the same from others.

I despair!

"If its all to much risk then get out"

I am.

But I'm evaluating what about going back in!

Not just evaluating day trading briefly, but what could a long term divvie return overseas really return?

Well come on then, let us a have a discussion assuming I wanted to sink ten grand in to POLY with a plan to receive dividend payments in cash to, say a Lloyds current account in the UK. Long term.

Assumptions. Poly can not list on any UK exchange. Company does not split assets. There is minimal civil unrest in Russia post war. There is no 'sequestration' of assets within Russia by the state. Poly successfully lists on the KZ and maintains MOEX but loses AIX (unfriendly).

So, which broker should I sign up with, what upfront fees can I expect, what other fees could I expect?

"??? how is that relevant
they went bankrupt due to sub prime mortgages."

Who saw it coming? Which voices were suppressed trying to warn? Who fell for the delusional ramping saying everything was fine?

What is really going on under the bonnet of Polymetal International?

The point is, people where citing great valuations of companies like Lehmans, and this is a frequent tactic on here. Why would people do that and then attack like a pack of rabid dogs anybody who questions the ramping?

"nobody here is saying this is a safe bet."

Some are, but too many keep trying to cast the company as some sort of innocent by-stander that would sacrifice their own mother to protect the ickle pis. And the garlands and positive spin lauded on the board? THAT is all a bit too much and hence deserves open scrutiny. There have been outright delusional rants on here based on the twisted propaganda from Russia and it has been absolutely correct to answer it despite the moderators.

Perhaps chipy you would be more comfortable on the Telegram chat. You won't have to put up with home truths and real world issues their. Saddle up your unicorn and prance around the chat rainbows with *** abandonment.

"Yet its a $2.8 billion dollar revenue company with a good history of financially benefiting shareholders."

So was Lehmans..................................

" Blue claims he has other investments and yet has failed to post on any of them"

I do have other stocks in my portfolio. Oh yes I do! The details do not interest me, they chug along going up and down and are not due to mature for many months. No interest in the minutia of those stocks.

But this stock has, or at least had, some interesting properties for a nice little earner. Might even be an interesting gambit for a 3-5 year punt. So I am intrigued and, 'discuss' where possible the potential and risks associated, in amongst all the personal crap.

There are no chat rules about where people MUST post or MUST NOT post according to holdings, or not.

"Be especially aware of those who resort to personally attacking somebody putting up a point to consider. It is a divergence tactic. You are being herded. You are being intimidated. You are being subject to a form of hypnosis.
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It is easy to spot.

And there you have it. Nothing about any content I post, but everything focused on the person, and somewhat inaccurate too.

Everybody BUY, just as long as you are 100% conscious of the potential issues and you may lose everything you invest.

Everybody should maintain their critical faculties. Be especially aware of those who resort to personally attacking somebody putting up a point to consider. It is a divergence tactic. You are being herded. You are being intimidated. You are being subject to a form of hypnosis.

BUY! But beware the potential problems that you may lose you everything, problems some here would rather you are not conscious of.

Bear in mind, there was no change in sanctions, no change in regulation, no change in law, nothing had changed before 10:30 yesterday. Yet the ability trade was hanging by a thread. A work around was eventually implemented. But what other threads are there, and what happens if there is any actual change in any variable? Round 10 of the EU sanctions is currently being drafted and the US is constantly updating theirs.

I would say, if you want to invest in this share, do so on the basis there will be no London listing, or any western listing in the near future, nor for some years after. Be prepared to be able to manage a holding overseas in KZ, including the ability to receive dividends and liquidate if needed.

On that basis, you have factored in the risk. This is the basis I would consider whether to drop in a sum on a 3 year wait. First issue is which broker and what upfront costs and whether they will continue post war.

Horult, I would only consider a longer holding based on GDR facility not being available, or having a plan B should the bank pull out due to some revelation down the road.

And as yesterday showed, I and plenty of others have not been 'scare mongering', we have been exploring real world probabilities and the consequences associated for a more realistic assessment of risk. That, against a never ending constant barrage of hysterical ramping and outright denial.

"You were at it yesterday with the sponsor conspiracy."

Eh? I simply asked if anybody knew who the sponsor was. Later determined one as not required for the current listing status. It was a deduction process as everybody was trying to understand the reason for the brokers putting up messages saying they were no longer trading in the share and no trades were being processed.

Hardly a conspiracy theory.
Wow, they way some things are twisted on here s just eye watering.

"and the worst of all, breaking your word. "

And by that I mean the implied promise to split the company back in March. With hindsight, many will deduce it was never going to happen and the board has just been stringing along iis. Don't bother pitching the arguments defending POLY. It will come down to the interpretation. I held on far too long waiting or this split, and I posted a number of times I felt that there was a block against it. With hindsight I was right. In fact, I doubt now it was ever a real prospect. Now the company has to move off LSE because it failed to split, with more promises of splitting.

Trust that? If iis perceive they've been had, the consequences can be quite severe.

You are most likely correct Tygra that companies and institutions may have it in for POLY. This may be very unfair, but the Russian connection is the key. As I posted earlier, it's the toxic asset effect. And I expect it to get a whole lot worse. I expect some 'revenge' business to start to be introduced too. Looks legal, sounds legal, but actually pay back for cyber attacks, disruption, lost business corruption and the worst of all, breaking your word.

This share would perhaps be better suspended now, the company makes an offer to buy back from pis who got caught out and then leave it to the long term holders happy to have holdings in KZ and with the financial advisors and broker facilities to deal with that arrangement.

There is a degree of holding on by their finger nails to LSE now. Perhaps better to pull out with goodwill while they can.