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Sounds good to me...

'Eskom told MyBroadband that there is not an update on the project, but said the first phase is expected to be completed at the end of 2020, and the second phase at the end of 2021.'

Thanks RK...you're a star...

Hi Paludina...is that right...from your logs, does it look like Vanchem have been supplying V205 to Avalon in Oakland annually. That being the case, more wheels within wheels eh!!

I don't do twitter.. Could someone please post following questions please:
1. Will Avalon or Cellcube be the battery of choice for the in-house PV/battery project and will there be a second installation at Vanchem?

2. Has BMN considered putting together a one stop shop pv/battery/electrolyte/lease/service ready to install package targetting high energy users such as other mining companies in South Africa?

Perhaps not suitable in places like California right now either...

Pat48.. We have known for some time BMN was going to invest/partner with battery manufacturers.. They've said so several times. They also mentioned managing projects which could be where your ideas might fit. Not sure they should get into lease finance though.

Pat48...I wouldn't think so as the Lease will be held by a Leasing Company/Bank. The way I see it, it's going to be rather similar to Leasing a Car. BMN will get it's money upfront for the Vanadium from the Lease Company who will then factory the amount into a Lease Deal with the client.

Alfacomp...thanks for that snippet...I guess we will just have to wait and see. As BBN said, consolidation of the small VRFB manufacturers and joint ventures/partnerships with the likes of BMN is definitely the only way they can get their economies of scale sorted now that PV Arrays are the must have in so many areas and they are trying to upscale on size of projects.

Let's bring Vanchem and Mokopane home first eh!

Thanks BBN...sorry our posts crossed.
Now, knowing what we know about the Cellcubes finances (which have been dodgy for a while), why would BMN even consider using them in their own 'show and tell' PV/Battery project. Surely there's a good case for some more VIP here on BMN's part to get the right to manufacture Cellcube batteries etc...

Cellcube, Immersa & Hive have been working on a joint manufacturing deal in the UK
https://www.solarpowerportal.co.uk/news/hive_energy_backs_long_duration_storage_with_immersa_cellcube_partnership

However in their last update, they say:
'It has taken a lot of time and capital to get to a position that Enerox is at today, but until the company can produce and execute projects with a consistent number of units, the company will continue to be in a monthly working capital deficit position. '
'CellCube is currently in negotiations with other parties with respect to both Enerox GmbH and V23 Resources. '

So the Enerox side of the Cellcube business could be up for grabs, if not the whole company.

RichKen...I thought that at first, but they're mentioned in the schematic drawing too and the detail given is Cellcube F1000-4000 DC Cluster and they're linked into a SCADA System which is used by Cellcube too. The PV on the same schematic simply says PVDC Field (no detal at all)....
You will find Cellcube details/SCADA on here.
https://www.ny-best.org/sites/default/files/uploaded/images/Matt%20Maiers%20Gildemeister.pdf

I also think there might be some copyright problems if you use someones pictures especially without their permission or at least reference to the fact they are not representative of the actual system being used etc....

As we all know:
‘Bushveld Vametco Holdings (Pty) Ltd (Bushveld Vametco) proposes to develop a 2.5 MW Photovoltaic (PV) fixed tilt solar park with a 1MW/4 MWh Vanadium Redox Flow battery (VRFB) storage system….The VRFB will be centralised and consist of 10 standards 3X12m shipping containers,’
https://www.golder.com/download/931/bushveld-vametco-holdings-pty-ltd-basic-assessment-for-solar-pv-park-brits/75063/18113653_bushveld_vametco_solar_pv_draft_bar.pdf

And… Fig 4 and Fig 5 in the Basic Assessment Concept Report above clearly show Cellcube Batteries.

And …‘The Public review period of the Draft Basic Assessment Report and supporting documents has been made available from 19 August 2019 to 18 September 2019.

However, stupid me, missed this:

‘The proposed study is a pilot project for combining PV solar with battery storage (Vanadium Redox Flow in this case), a new technology that has been successfully implemented in the United States of America at the Maharishi University. This pilot study will assess the economic and technological feasibility of such a project within the South African context.’

There are no activity alternatives considered for this project, as this is a pilot project for determining the feasibility of renewable energy with battery storage within South Africa.’

Now guess what has been implemented at the Maharishi University!!!...

‘Nextracker NX Flow Avalon batteries are utilised at the site.’
https://www.energy-storage.news/news/iowas-first-large-scale-pv-plus-storage-project-installed-at-university-use

Dah Dah!!!!
However, the question is, why do they clearly show Cellcube batteries????

1. Are they actually going to use Cellcube batteries and they are simply making reference to a project combining PV solar with Vanadium battery storage....
And when they say ‘there are no activity alternatives considered for this project’ they just mean they won’t be using an alternatives PV solar and vanadium battery technology.
And one other reason it might still be Cellcube is the fact they are using fixed tilt panels not tracker panels and they don't mention Nextracker or whose Panels will be used.

2. Or they are in fact going to use Avalon batteries not Cellcube.

3. Or they are keeping their options open.

I for one are now very confused dot com!!!! Any thoughts????

BBN...I'm resposting this under your subject heading - would appreciate your comments...
And many, many thanks for your 3 page post - excellent.

As we all know:
‘Bushveld Vametco Holdings (Pty) Ltd (Bushveld Vametco) proposes to develop a 2.5 MW Photovoltaic (PV) fixed tilt solar park with a 1MW/4 MWh Vanadium Redox Flow battery (VRFB) storage system….The VRFB will be centralised and consist of 10 standards 3X12m shipping containers,’
https://www.golder.com/download/931/bushveld-vametco-holdings-pty-ltd-basic-assessment-for-solar-pv-park-brits/75063/18113653_bushveld_vametco_solar_pv_draft_bar.pdf

And… Fig 4 and Fig 5 in the Basic Assessment Concept Report above clearly show Cellcube Batteries.

And …‘The Public review period of the Draft Basic Assessment Report and supporting documents has been made available from 19 August 2019 to 18 September 2019.

However, stupid me, missed this:

‘The proposed study is a pilot project for combining PV solar with battery storage (Vanadium Redox Flow in this case), a new technology that has been successfully implemented in the United States of America at the Maharishi University. This pilot study will assess the economic and technological feasibility of such a project within the South African context.’

There are no activity alternatives considered for this project, as this is a pilot project for determining the feasibility of renewable energy with battery storage within South Africa.’

Now guess what has been implemented at the Maharishi University!!!...

‘Nextracker NX Flow Avalon batteries are utilised at the site.’
https://www.energy-storage.news/news/iowas-first-large-scale-pv-plus-storage-project-installed-at-university-use

Dah Dah!!!!
However, the question is, why do they clearly show Cellcube batteries????

1. Are they actually going to use Cellcube batteries and they are simply making reference to a project combining PV solar with Vanadium battery storage....
And when they say ‘there are no activity alternatives considered for this project’ they just mean they won’t be using an alternatives PV solar and vanadium battery technology.
And one other reason it might still be Cellcube is the fact they are using fixed tilt panels not tracker panels and they don't mention Nextracker or whose Panels will be used.

2. Or they are in fact going to use Avalon batteries not Cellcube.

3. Or they are keeping their options open.

I for one are now very confused dot com!!!! Any thoughts????

Based on CellCube's recent corporate update, I wonder what the current situation is regarding this project... Mmmm a little VIP upfront investment might be the answer...!!!!
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cellcube-and-pangea-energy-have-signed-loi-for-50mw200mwh-in-australia-300849403.html

Jebediah... Another good read for you with lots of comments from Avalon. Rental will be the driving force for Vanadium batteries.
https://www.pv-magazine-australia.com/2019/09/28/long-read-flow-batteries-scale-up-to-gw-production/

And Avalon supply batteries to NEXtracker.
https://www.energy-storage.news/news/vanadium-player-bushveld-backs-redt-avalon-flow-battery-merger-deal

Can't wait Numpty5.. Have a wonderful holiday... lol xx

Avalon is the prize not Redt....
Avalon will get a London listing and can basically strip out the best bits of Redt plus it takes them out of the market.
BMN have been around long enough to know what Redt are all about.
If anyone on here still owns any Redt shares I think you will get full details of the deal pre voting.

Sorry HaleSpur... Blxxdy phone...

HsleSpur... If BMN use Cellcube for their own installation then yes absolutely and it would be for the African Market and the one they then manufacture. This is what Cellcube said in their last update:
'CellCube is currently in negotiations with other parties with respect to both Enerox GmbH and V23 Resources. '