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Whilst I absolutely want to see our share price rise, even to fairer values, I'd be cautious about getting too excited over a coming announcement. I'm not suggesting for a moment there is no annoucnement - honestly, I'm as in the dark as you - but I think it does all LTHs good to remain as calm and unflappable about good news as we are about bad.
I don't want to put a damper on any excitement but, in the long run, whatever Bamps' Big Secret is it really makes no difference to me; I'll be holding this share regardless of what happens for years to come.
Sorry for the double post. LSE initially didn't show my post as having gone through, so I had to rewrite it!
"sorry if it sounds a bit technical but thats basically how things work"
It doesn't sound technical, and it's not correct in this case.
You are referring to internal network addresses, which are dished out to connecting devices under the DHCP protocol. That's *not* the same thing as your public IP when connecting online, which is completely unique to your entry point at that particular time and routes back - admittedly with some exceptions - to your ISP.
In simple terms, try visiting any of the 'whatsmyip' services and you'll see what I mean. That is your external - public - IP address; you will never see your internal address listed as it simply doesn't form part of the header.
Logging the public IP - very different from your internal network IP - is trivially easy for any website / web application to manage, and goes a long way to personally identifying an individual user. There are exceptions, of course, and there are ways around it, but for the overwheling majority of people it would act as a simple defense against the culprits of multiple accounts at the same computer.
For clarity, I am a network engineer.
Hi bishopjolo,
"sorry if it sounds a bit technical but thats basically how things work"
It doesn't sound technical, and it's not how things work. You are referring to internal network IPs which are dished out to conencting devices under DHCP. That's not the same thing as your public IP, which is compeltely unique to you at that point and routes back - with some exceptions - to your ISP. For example, visit any of the whatsmyip services and you'll never see your internal address listed.
Logging the public IP - very different from your internal network IP - is trivially easy for any website / web application to manage, and goes a long way to personally identifying an individual user. There are exceptions, of course, and there are ways around it, but for the overwheling majority of people it would act as a simple defense against the culprits of multiple accounts at the same computer.
For clarity, I am a network engineer.
"only blue days will resolve this"
I'm fairly confident that there are two other things that would resolve, if not then at least massively reduce, the troll infestation on this board:
1) The LSE Terms & Conditions page specifically claims that every post has its IP logged. If that's true (and there's no reason to doubt it given it's trivially easy information to capture and store), then why not print that IP on the post itself, possibly in the upper-right beside the post time, so anyone can see the IP the user is posting from. That will make life far, far harder for single people running multiple accounts to stay 'hidden'.
2) Have a time limit between registration and first post. This is very common in BB and really simple to implement. A user can register, but can only read and not post for let's say a week. In one simple change you weed out all the problem trolls who only register accounts for the weekend to then cause disruption.
Apologies if this has already been posted, but there's an interesting article in today's Money Week on the value of owning *both* gold and bitcoin in your portfolio that's well worth reading, especially as it highlights the ways in which the two investments compliment one another rather than - as so often seems to be the stance taken by some investors - combating one another.
For absolute clarity, I am more than happy to admit that the two biggest positions in my own little portfolio are precisely these assets, with Gold (GGP) taking the biggest share, followed by Bitcoin (ARB) the second. I'm extremely happy with both investments and remain confident that these two areas of investment will prove to be good choices in the years to come.
The link to the orginal article is here:
https://moneyweek.com/investments/commodities/gold/602990/why-you-should-own-bitcoin-and-gold-as-inflation-returns
"I thought I had a bargain when I brought some for 22p"
You still do. My GGP average is 23.13 so this drop is painful, but only on paper. And as I don't intend to sell a single share until they hit my personal target the value - frankly - could dip to the much touted 10p; the SP is largely irrelevant when you consider the fundamentals, which - as far as I can see - remain clear and strong.
II did the same. One of my price alerts (at 360) was just triggered. The actual price on that brokerage, like here, is showing around 225.
"I just did a dummy BUY request of just 4,000 shares on ii. No offer available!"
I found a similar thing around lunchtime. It took multiple checks over the twenty minute period, and several page refreshes, before I finally got through a 5k share purchase. I'd have bought more, but that's simply all I can afford with my meagre capital and a five week month - paydate speaking - coming in April!
Of course, LSE's filters have rather played merry hell with that pun, but you take the point.
Itnerestingly, there's an opposing school of thought that suggests - not unreasonably to my mind - that it's not necessary to stick to hard rules of grammar, sentence construction, and speech.
The first purpose of language, arguably, is to communicate thought. So long as you achieve that does it realli mater if you're words does not follows commin rulez?
"No excuse for it."
Quite right. Good grammar is the difference between knowing your ****, and knowing you're ****.
Ah yes, CLP. A company who like to tell people they are fully embracing cutting-edge technologies and yet have a website that can't even maintain proper SSL, uses deprecated scripting standards, and has source code that looks like it was written by a nine-year old whose entire knowledge of online development comes from a ten minute YouTube video entitled "My First Website".
Despite the persistent, and really rather juvenile, ramping I think I'll be steering well clear of those clowns.
Just add the uBlock Origin extension to your browser. All ads gone.
You're welcome.
For many of us, myself included, that link is behind a paywall.
Any chance you can quote the article here? If not verbatim in its entirety, just the pertinent paragraphs would be appreciated.
Thanks.
An excellent post Joshthom93, thank you, especially as it comes from an investor like myself; a smaller investor who bought in relatively late (23.9p for me).
I think the important point here is that whilst we smaller investors are - comparatively speaking - often harder hit than the bigger LTH investors, it absolutely pays to hold your nerve. It's clear that, as savage as it is, this manipulation is being done for a reason and I think that reason is pretty clear. This is not a normal case of SP movement; this is being actively driven down.
If you can, this is an ideal opportunity to expand your holdings here. If you can't, then hold fast. I have absolutely no doubts whatsoever that in as little as a few months time these boards will be awash with "Do you remember when we went back to 21p?" comments.
I'm not entirely sure it's LSE's fault or, indeed, just what they can do about it. It's pretty clear that these jokers can easily create multiple accounts on a whim and that - whilst the registration process remains open and accessible (as, in my view, it should) - there's always the chance for abuse. However, I'd take heart from the following considerations:
1) Whilst they cannot stop these jokers before they start LSE are, in my view, pretty quick to jump on their posts when they are reported and equally quick to remove problem posts/threads. I don't know how many BBs you've experienced before but, trust me, such active administration is not common. I think LSE are doing a pretty good job at trying to keep these trolls contained.
2) I've said before that these jokers often act as reliable reverse-barometers; if they're attacking the share then it's a good indication the opposite is true. They invariably appear as the SP goes down and are, in my personal view, being used to cause disruption and sow confusion. Without wanting to don a conspiratorial tin-foil hat here, I'm not absolutely convinced these are just random lunatics either; I suspect there is a specific, coordinated agenda to all this rubbish and forewarned is forearmed as they say.
Personally, these trolls do very little other than help underline that this is a strong company with excellent fundamentals and a bright future.
"I expect there are many who are not in a position to top up or improve their average figure, so this drop would be a worry for them."
This is both an excellent, and appreciated, observation, thank you Jet47.
It's worth remembering that the board, and the markets, are full of people like myself who work extremely hard for only a modest paycheck and have enormous outgoings that drain what little income we have.
For us, these dips are galling to witness when we have so much of our very small capital tied up in a company that continues to drop. It's only my researched certainty for this company and absolute conviction is will grow again that keeps me holding hee but, honestly, there's not a single day that goes by right now where I don't curse the fact I have no capital to improve my position here and that by the time we reach next payday I'll have only a few hundred - at best - spare to put here.
Of course, I do have a rather cunning strategy to improve my situation. Now then, who'd like to donate me a few thousand?
"board full of babies that cant see past the last months nonsense"
Ahem, *some* baby investors here can absolutely see the long term benefits of this share and are holding tightly to their little collection of shares :)
Forgive my ignorance, but is the '2,475p' supposed to be a per share projection at the end of the article? As in £24.75 per share?
Obviously, I'd be extremely pleased to see that level, but I'd dearly like to know how they've come up with figure.
I have a technical background and, trust me, even a semi-proficiant hacker / hacking team will never announce themselves to their targets in grandiose statements; the whole point is to carry out your hack 'quietly' and without ever alerting the target(s).
You know who does make ludicrous, grandiose statements about how great they are (well, apart from America's former president, of course)? Children needy for attention, that's who.
If the person behind these troll posts is reading this - and I strongly suspect they are - grow up. Literally nobody is impressed.