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Bless you NDN. Maybe invest in one of these, only another 2.5 years left before it all goes.
Speaker looks good though. Wow.
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/signaling-system-no/1587050404/pt02.html
PPS - sorry didnāt mean to insult PBX guys, I should have said I was expecting a lecturer or super qualified engineer to be pushing so much technical advice on an hourly basis
Blimey wish I had time to count all those characters youāve used to under-whelm me with your technical experience.
Private exchanges are where technicians usually go to die. Certainly not a place where you should be preaching āexpertiseā from on a daily basis.
PBXās will have stacks too, for Q931, DASS, DPNSS, ETSI, maybe CAS or SIP. Itās the software / architecture that runs these protocols in the background.
Obviously youāre right, I know nothing of which I talk, completely unrelated industry and all that.
Thatās pretty much all my questions answered confirmed. Be careful everyone where you get your info from would be my advice.
Anything else you need to know from a non personal perspective. No Iām not going to tell you how much money I have, how many shares I own, what my qualifications might be or post photos of myself. That would be plain silly.
Fleccy - how dare you count the characters from my conversations with lil Rod.
I can only assume somewhere in your programming of unrelenting optimism and repeat messaging, there is a subroutine which allows you to do this.
Can only assume you donāt know what a C7 stack is either?
Anyway Rod is nailing it today isnāt he? What ever his new nurse is doing for him, I do hope it can continue.
Fleccy - are there any threads on this site where you donāt rush to be heard. I can only assume the server you live in is maintenance free?
Little Rod, I never thought I would see the day, where you were lucid, once again, free from the drugs & away from the malign control of nursery.
Fleccy continues to not out perform his programming, stuck in all kinds of never ending circular routing. He could take a tip from the average C7 stack that would put a stop to it, to save bandwidth for something else
Still doesnāt understand the nature of a public board like this, asking for personal details and proof is bad enough, but not realising I could reply with anything, would make me like him.
Not to mention his non AI missing out the bit where I said I agree with some of it & the problem being the in-ending, in-questioning 24/7 responses to every post.
A subject I think you have beautifully covered with your new found thought through prose.
Not understanding applications constantly harvest information about you and your machine (at the application later) is the indication he asks me for. Arguing that routing & device information stays in the network, already made my point.
Thank you lil Rod, perfect reality described by a hidden scholar.
As Iāve said, bit sick of repeating, Iām heavily invested in BT.
But that is not what this is about. Neither is it about anti bt investors, itās the opposite.
People ramping up bt, continuously might encourage others to risk more than they should / or normally would
Continually ramping up BT with zero balance, is equally, if not more destructive than those who encourage no investment. Continually repeating the same, unquestioning, positive message is damaging, because most people want their bias confirmed, it appeals to them in many ways, particularly if looking at a reducing investment
Itās very dangerous & I wouldnāt want to see a single person on here hurt by it. If you look through fleccys and his disciples posts, you will see an unwavering pattern. This includes attempting to unmask as a traitor or non-believer, anyone who tryās to add balance, itās blatantly obvious.
Expat - again Iām not criticising investment strategy, Iāve explained that more than once.
That researchā¦. Itās not. Everything Fleccy just quoted came from BT, yet he uses it again and again to convince you, heās doing a thorough job. If he kept it to himself, thatās fine, but heās going out of his way not too.
Iām challenging it, right now & if youāve got any sense, you can see. he is left wanting.
Iād hate for people to think he is a technical or strategic authority. Iāve tested the technical time and time again & honestly, it shouts out a very low level understanding. Itās very dangerous for people to put their money, where Fleccyās mouth is.
Some of what he says is probably right, I agree with some of it, but he is so biased, itās dangerous to take seriously.
I am seriously thinking he is a bot. Not able to answer / comprehend questions, unable to adjust the message beyond defined boundaries, quote irrelevant things, available 24/7 to interject on EVERY THREAD, continuously repeating a message.
I mean come on?
Itās my opinion, dyor.
Fleccy - great one sided analysis
Now, what about all the outside forces and possibilities outside of BTās control & plan for the future
These would range from competition, major share holders needing to bail out. Government & regulator changes & technological advances which could undermine BTās huge investment
Iām old enough to remember many of those arguments & advantages declared by energis. Then their fibres started to disintegrate.
Good grief Fleccy, there is seriously something wrong with you, or you canāt read, or you canāt assimilate meaning from written words (are you a bot?)
I obviously have a significant BT holding, I often buy to reduce average price (with remorse)
I also convince myself BT will come good at the end, but am conscious & wide eyed about upcoming risk & the reasons for the low price. (which i think might be reaching a threshold for me personally)
Again, my comments are not about your investment strategy, thatās your business, my comments are around your full throated, unquestioning delight at being able to get more shares for less, because the price is so low, with no acknowledgement why that might be (conspiracy theories ignored) or except anyone that matters has it all wrong.
Itās not difficult is it, unless of course you are a ānot veryā AI bot, triggered 24|7 at he slightest un-brain dead comment.
Please block me, Iām tired of this too and frow. I really donāt think this particular bot has anything substantial to add, other than a broken record of unquestioning optimism (whilst heading for unexplained lows)
Fleecy - Iām not sure whatās wrong with you but my post couldnāt be clearer
āThe focus of this thread was to test the logic of never ending optimism for low share prices and being always happy it means cheap top ups as opposed to sanguine opportunism of buying low and selling high ā
Yet you go on and on about your investment choices, which Iām not referencing.
Iām referencing the unquestioning over confidence. I asked in a previous post, where are your considerations for down sides, threats, risks all of which change why you happy clap your way through a low share price. Youāve already seen dividends pause, you wouldnāt have thought that possible 5 years ago.
I thinks itās called bias. How many hours a day do you spend waiting to full this board up with this bias? Just wondering?
As a foot note to this discussion.
A friend of mine made a very good point, apologies if this has been covered.
The focus of this thread was to test the logic of never ending optimism for low share prices and being always happy it means cheap top ups as opposed to sanguine opportunism of buying low and selling high
Anyway, point my friend made was the same conditions lowering BTās share price are likely related to the same pressures reducing pension pots, creating high inflation, etc etc
So the losses are far greater than the BT share price & all of them far more likely to run out of control & wonāt resolve themselves in time for a BT restructure.
I think this was the point I was trying to make. Itās not the investment strategy, itās the unrelenting optimism not accounting for these realities / possibilities
I too pragmatically reduce my average, but I do it with a heavy heart knowing itās not a good predicament to be in.
Blue Pete - my guess is Drahi might be a drowning man.
I have a feeling mr Leverage has played a bad hand. In too deep on borrowed money, interest rates high, asset value dropping & problems else were.
If you look at his investment in BT compared to everything else, itās pretty big. I think he was stretching, needing a bit of luck.
If Iām right, where will his shares go? If Iām wrong he will extend his investment
Honestly I see DT just watching this and sainting. I said couple of weeks ago. Donāt forget DT handed huge volumes of their shares to what I consider dark forces (large hedge funds). Maybe we need to wonder why they did that & it being a reason share price behaves strangely. With so many shares out of circulation, price should be going up, itās like the biggest buy back scheme ever!!
Well NDN - coming from someone who stalks & , steals personal information and then uses it to threaten people with some kind of weird exposure. I must have been bad.
Youāve obviously religiously searched through everything and have examples ?
Surely Fleccy can fight his own battles, donāt you think? Compared to the usual ābanter on hereā I wonder why I should trigger you? (Donāt answer that I already know)
Oh here we go NDN - I agree it is the same, every company is promoting their best foot forward.
Itās not me treating their statements as gospel.
& I hardly get involved with the usual criticism around peoples money and investment. Iāve commented this time to try and explain why bad & bad might lead to more for less too ups, but that always hoping for lower share price rather than for higher, means hoping for more and more bad & that too much bad could impact their longer term investment,
Now I realise you are dangerously obsessed with me, but really read my posts.
Fleccy of course I read BTās view of the world & I recognise it for what it is.
In part itās a description of the future, set by an organisation operating in its own echo chamber.
Obviously I add competition, technology, market conditions, major share holder actions & everything else I think is outside BTās control.
Out of interest, what would be your top 10 risks / issues / unknown unknowns surrounding BTās strategy /.business ?
If one of those isnāt Drahi offloading his shares & what that could mean (Iāll give you a clue, itās not necessarily DT who will buy). Itās very odd.
Fleccy - I get what you are saying & for last couple of years itās been quite funny.
However a functioning mind should really be seeing this is getting serious now and all kinds of unexpected risks are at play.
The trading conditions you want to get worse and the other things affecting BT price are the same pressures which could force Billions of shares on the market for years to come, not to mention the unknown unknowns which could suddenly happen due to an extended period of market negativity.
I can for the first time seriously see risks that could break BT for a long time. In part brought in by their weakness which you think give you an extra 5% of shares for your money
Doesnāt sound like sound investment to me.