Slight warning about dodgy analysis. Project lightening is full fibre DOCSIS as RFoG.
& I think that 2028 refers to full fibre fully developed national network, not their existing 17m premises. Also, as this article clearly states, itâs already delivering gigabit speeds, therefore is already technology proof for foreseeable future, in terms of demand.
Itâs not necessarily SKY this could be all about COMCAST and cable ideology.
The real battle here might be in the SKY boardroom.
SKY have been saying they want to move away from satellite, I think they have been perfecting OTT services, with NOW TV. But the battle will be COMCAST cable doctrine pushing to âbe more like a cable companyâ
now COMCAST are involved, I think they will have that cable doctrine. Moving SKY services to VMO2 for them wonât be about wholesale, it will be for SKY becoming more âlike a cable companyâ with a mobile arm O2
SKY has a John Malone prodigy ex Virgin Media COO in charge now, this is no coincidence, writing could be on the wall.
Would not surprise me if deal already done, where COMCAST take over SKY cable, formally known as VMO2 after the dust settles
Any disruption they can cause to the incumbent in the mean time, will be what cable companies have always done. Same for other companies like Vodafone, talk talk etc they will all want to damage incumbent too.
From a BT share owner perspective, this is my worst nightmare, COMCAST / SKY donât need to wait for full fibre, & VM can deliver FTTP very easily, mostly just 200m ish from existing street cabinets. VM wholesaling SKY (to its customer areas). Makes no sense for Virgin, unless the longer plan will be for a sellout, because competition will be so strong.
I think legacy SKY will want to continue OTT NOW TV and COMCAST / Liberty VMO2 will be planning a COMCAST takeover. Telefonica along for the ride. Itâs risky for SKY, much more so than OTT strategy, but a COMCAST future could not happen without huge risk.
Who will win the boardroom battle? Cards are stacked in my opinion. VM02 upgrades cover 4/5 of uk, far more than any American equivalent. Next couple of weeks will tell us, but a wholesale deal with VMO2 doesnât look like itâs in VMO2âs TV or Broadband businesses interest to me? So it will indicate something else? I think press are missing this crucial pointâŚ..
Itâs almost like this site has been reading our discussions on device identification? Out of interest I read small print.
â Precise geolocation data, and identification through device scanningâ
& a paragraph in there about device registration!, Nice to see theyâve upped their game. Very long list of partners.
FYI only, Iâm not interested in further denials of facts. I just thought might want to know or out of interest.
Will following years already account for tax savings, as a consequence of BTâs investments?
The other unknown is forecasts have to know how much BT will spend rolling out fibre in particular. I would guess this is an unknown as forecasters probably donât have access to the price per mile / m Bt have managed to trim of whether rollout will be adjusted. Depending on business priorities I could see these numbers being moved around balance sheets along the way. There are significant options to play with the bottom line at the point of reporting.
Stalking again ? Those are errors, I read that snd can see they are errors, a combination of big fingers, small screen & rushing, rather than habitual ignorance
Typically ridiculous & petty of you to point it out, so unaware you are committing a sin, best captured by. âBut in the morning you will still be uglyâ . Iâd change this add say in the morning you will still be horribly unaware of your silly self, blundering through an ignorance is bliss existence.
Do you think your obsession with me is getting a bit, you know.... odd ?
This might have as much to do with viewing figures than anything else & realisation uefa may be reluctant to sell rights to smaller audiences? If thatâs the case ITV might be a good partner. But I hate the fact Liberty own a large portion of ITV & that John Malone / Virgin media have made secret itv is something they want to own. Iftbus is about money, then Amazon, Disney would be obvious options, I think Bt sport productions are excellent, based on this they should produce content for other tv options
That not very nice lil Rod. I could see fleccyâs misinformation has already confused you into thinking your internet adventures were safe. I thought you would like to know how easy it is to identify your deeds? So you can proceed with caution
Again not true. Virtually everything sell on here as your expertise is not correct.
Itâs not a major investigation at all, what you describe is a tech giants business model.
& initially you claimed (backed up by promoting your expertise) that a MAC address or unique identifier never leaves layer 2 or that a vpn services & or encryption would protect you anyway
Neither of these are true. & itâs important
Itâs also very important to use your technical expertise to explain to people that having a device which has been hacked and modified by tech criminals & then plugging it into to your âtrusted sideâ of a home network for free content is madness!!? Itâs equivalent of leaving all your doors and windows open, whist advertising this fact on prison TV.... absolute madness.
Fleccy - sip is an example of a Layer 4 registering a device. I used SIP because you are such a telecoms expert so you will be familiar there are other examples
The act of registration is one method which can be used to exchange unique identifiers example give is MAC, manufacturer, model, version etc
Because itâs an application, transport layer is irrelevant IP Ethernet whatever. It also means no amount of encryption or VPN protection will prevent this information being exchanged
Device registration happens before username : password , for sip it identifies location for other applications itâs for unique devices,(see Netflix, Amazon, backing etc trusted devices)
Once you have Mac or unique identifier, you have purchase / warranty details & can cross reference other sites similar to advertising agencies / tech companies do
Just like to repeat, vpn or encryption does not provide any protection (I love that bit)
Luckily I donât know as much as you do, I just read a lot.
I thought so. Liberty have a 10 or 11% share of ITV
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-4497452/amp/Why-media-tycoon-Liberty-eyes-ITV.html
Larry - ITV. That could get interesting in 2 ways, would love to see football back on terrestrial tv (but never liked itv pundits) but secondly, I think Liberty Media used to have a big stake in ITV?
NDN & Fleccy
Obviously I donât know as much as you guys. I think you term yourselves as voice experts, so the example that helps you here is for SIP registration. But can assure you other examples of layer 4 (application layer) registrations happen in similar way, Netflix, banking, etc. Itâs one method there are others. Anyway, voice example of MAC address being passed between 2 clients over layer 3 = IP
Iâm sure as this is your area of expertise, you know far more than I do. Please note the exchange of manufacturer, version & MAC address
The message above is a typical REGISTER message. Letâs get familiar with the most important Headers:
REGISTER â the method being used
CSeq: incremental counter of the session
Via: indicates the route taken by a request
and the rport indcates the SIP server to use the received port to reply, while the port indicated in the message as NAT / PAT might be working in the middle
User-Agent: indicates the SIP Client connecting; most devices will indicate here the manufacturer â product name â software version and other information, such as the MAC address
Does this mean maker thinks Bt stand to do a deal worth circa ÂŁ400mln?
Honestly that seems quite low valuation for BT sport or for a worthwhile portion of Bt sport ?
Or not. Reading articles, when Bt sport managed to get control of european football, it virtually stopped customers leaving for sky. I see that as hidden value
No most of thatâs not right either Fleccy, starting to wonder if youâre just a user of technology / technician , rather than an engineer?
So one minute according to you âMac stays in L2 â & now you are identifying how important it is to mask it. Make your mind up, sounds like the kind of confusion that happens when you donât really understand.
Itâs virtually impossible to remain anonymous, the biggest and best method of doing that is discipline. Not technology
Glad weâve established MAC address will give you away at L4. Itâs also v. Obvious if itâs cloned & doing it in software doesnât do it if the chipset in your âuniqueâ interface still has it hard coded!!!!! The effort needed to hide this sticks out a mile. (Someone who knows these things, told me). & you need to do it on every device with a âuniqueâ interface. (Good luck on your phone!!)
Obviously I know nothing about technology. I just read a lot.
Well,if it turns out BT sport end up doing sport productions for Disney/Amazon I would see this as a good thing. Devil in detail as always. I see BT sport as a really high quality production, I remember the studios they bought around Olympic village.
lil rod. You might want to look at this
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/thousands-kodi-iptv-users-sent-18943275.amp