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Funinvestor, that's correct. Which is what I said. Vastly more positive than last year, however we've not moved in the straight line that some may have expected.
M00la, why would I change my strategy? My strategy is to be invested for as long as possible and achieve a good profit. Just because the outlook is slightly different, doesn't mean one should sell some or all of their holding. I wouldn't be maximising my returns if I did that. Do you see all institutional investors doing that? It's just a simple thought of uncertainty. Not saying the sp will tank or such silly things, but £1 is a target which needs to stick then beyond that would be great. What I will say is, I'm glad there's more optimism and less trolls. My position remains the same, but I'm less confident I'm sharp rises or getting back to say 125p+ in this quarter. Why would that ever be a 'negative?'. What is the definition of a LTH then, on regards to what their views should be? Please explain. Didn't you sell your shares because you needed the money and buy back? Awesome for you. You won't find me saying, 'oh, why did you sell if you're a LTH?' Didn't know there was a LTH rule book. Each to their own. Logically, I can also decide to sell, hold or buy at any time, based on personal circumstances and my outlook on the sp. However, I can also express my opinion on this. I'm not giving anyone financial advice (which I'm qualified to do), I'm not telling people to buy or sell like others do and I'm not saying that cine will collapse or head to the moon. But what I am doing is holding. Imagine if cine said in 3 month's time that divs were back. I'd hold for as long as possible and build around it. So things can change, but I'm not here to stick to the (positive) narrative, as I feel the uncertainty can cause continuous turbulence in the sp. For how long for, who knows? All I want is positive indicators to be achieved and the general sentiment globally to improve. Plus the media sucks and does a superb job in scaremongering.
Haha. I love that my posts are getting dissected. M00la, negative or positive aren't we entitled to express an opinion? What about rampers? Why don't you tell them to stop posting baseless predictions or just unrealistic views? Do you think the likes of L&G or BOA think the same as the most positive shareholders on this board? I'm sure their position/outlook changes. It's exactly the same as sp forecasting. It can change, depending on the situation. You can be a lth and cautious/realistic/negative. Doesn't mean you should sell or you have an agenda etc.
My post re cine being a recovery stock with legs still stands. However, I'm not going to be that shareholder that just comes on here and agrees with sentiment of others when I've seen so many of you moan and say things like 'the sp should be higher etc' (again, I've probably done the same but realised how volatile we are). We have had a turbulent 2 months or so. No one can deny that. Outlook is unknown imo. We need to stay open everywhere. We need to have confidence in the wider markers and in our fundamentals. But no, it's bad to say all of this because it doesn't suit the general narrative.
One minute you're fighting derampers, now it's just the person that has an alternative viewpoint during this rocky period. It just seems like those of you that are ultra positive (which there's nothing wrong with), just want to shut down everyone else. I get the silly guys proclaiming cinema collapses and cine downfall etc, but I'm not one of them.
At least I'm still here. I've seen people come and go and those that are still here are good. Yet I'm sure there are many that sold up and predicted the rocky period correctly, or changed their outlook after news or results etc. Never would I tell those people they were wrong. We all have decisions to make when it comes to investing. I'm sure we all have different objectives and exit/entry points. So why just shoot down alternative opinions? I'm not laughing or cheering for the sp to fall, or insulting the company or shorting. We've all seen those posters. So I'll stick to expressing an opinion, just like the rest of you do. And I'm clearly sticking to the facts, otherwise I'd be saying cine down to 20p or cine up to 200p. Based on my research, I feel it's generally positive, however there's external forces that can halt progress. The sp is fairly stable, relative to last year and as posters have said, many uncertainties are out of the way. Despite all of this, we have the macroeconomic situation which seems to change depending on who speaks, then we have the pandemic and whether we can open and remain open for years to come. We have shorters in the background, that may or may not close anytime soon. We have shareholders that aren't all the way happy, so will they influence the price somehow? These are my observations. Might not suit your narratives, but I am not afraid to express for the sake of getting shut down. I didn't sell at 125p and may have tho
The very fact that we are having this debate and offering different opinions, to me reflects the uncertainty that goes on in the markets. I totally agree that things are better, getting better and will be better. However, I like to assess as information comes out. Things are still uncertain and if you guys think that is negative, then you clearly only see one side. And whilst this variant issue becomes fear etc, the markets could react to that. Just in the same way as inflation fears have temporarily hurt markets, so can this. My rebuttal against some of you, is your continuous remarks about where the sp should be or that it will be this or that by a certain date. I used to partially think like that, but now I decided to just see how things play out. If the sp takes longer to rise or starts to fall, most of you would moan or be shocked. However, you wouldn't own up to the fact that things are negative. This is despite some of you expressing dissent for Boris. If the sp rises this week, which so many here have predicted, I'll be happy, but if it doesn't then I won't be surprised. And the same goes for 1, 3, 6 months, unless the interim data and outlook is more positive - which it may be. Who knows? Clearly some of you have referenced media scaremongering etc. Where do you think I've got the info from? It's out there, hence this debate. I personally feel frustrated by it and have seen how markets react and especially cine.
At least I know that my position remains the same. Can't top up, not selling, one year of holding but with no expectations on when we'll get the big consistent rise. So happy to be called negative or whatever, but there's no agenda or pointless price predictions anymore (I'm sure I've done it in the past), no shorting, trading. It's an opinion with a clear contrasting view point to most of you. So of course I look like the Debbie Downer. It's all good though. If the sp rises, we all win.
Fyi, cases of the Indian variant have gone up. It was shown on the broadcast. That's what I was referring to. Don't need to site my sources to justify a statement. Anyone can find it.
I have a sneaky feeling that markets won't react kindly to the variant news. So I doubt Monday will be as good as some may expect. There may be more news either this weekend or on Monday to look out for. I'm holding out from saying all the good news will see things unlock. We're still in a vulnerable position. If cases continue to rise markets may be in edge again. People talk about opening up, but we need to remain open. Yes, the US is a huge market, but the UK is still important and is a factor for revenues. So I hope this variant gets diluted
The reason I'm being a Debbie Downer is because the outlook in the short term is still uncertain, but as a long term holder I'm not bothered. However, everyone is entitled to express negativity without having agendas. It's just a simple opinion on the current cine state. My personal target is between 130-150p and if you want to look at my posts, I've said that a few times. So negative posts or not, I'm holding. So don't care if some think negative just means having an agenda or whatever. I'm not going to ramp and look stupid. Most of you guys said £1 by end of this week etc. Just waffle and false hope.
We'll see. Can't see it flying tbh. This news isn't the greatest. Potentially push it above 90s or potentially stick around 80s for now. We need a strong opening and strong positive spins on news's first
Danster of course I hope good news would push the sp up, but there's also been bad news. The shareholder revolt wasn't received well, even though we got the votes. This silly inflation thing is another. I don't agree that this should have spooked markets, because everyone knows that inflation is inevitable, so again more bad news. Then there's not been a great deal of cine specific news that is so significant to push the sp up. We can't explain the falls in full as we don't know the facts, that's why I just feel there's no point investors acting like they are entitled. There's no reason why the sp should be any higher than what it is now imo. It's just very very unfortunate that it's fallen this much. If I had expectations that it would have fallen so much, I would have sold, but I still feel confident and can hold all year if need be. I see a light at the end of the tunnel, but much like last year for 6 months or so, it was terrible. We have hit another wall and have to ride it out again.
This share has been hit so hard that I doubt it will just shoot up 15-20% like it used to. A lot of you guys seem to think history will repeat itself. This time is different. The company has been battling with major shareholders about various issues. It will take many more months before confidence is restored. Who knows what the sp will be. Staying calm is certainly the best advice. Too many moaners, people who expect too much out of nothing. Good news doesn't always play into our favour. Why don't investors get that
We all knew this was the case. Imo (which people clearly don't like), this is more important than opening news etc. If we can resolve this, then the big shareholders will act accordingly. This may boost the sp in the future. Right now, we're in the hands of the spooked markets, which is unfortunate but totally understandable. 80s is still a good number imo, wouldn't want it to go 70s or lower
Maybe in 6 months or so. Past performance doesn't reflect the future. There's different variables to consider now. It's very simplistic to just say because btc was this arb will be this. We need to be realistic here. I hope it rises but not expecting it to for a long while based on this information
Of course it's panic, but also it's people selling for profits. It's just a reflection of the short term outlook. We don't know what's going to happen in the next 6-12 months. Rampers who keep saying it's not fair etc, shouldn't be invested. This comes with the territory.
I've said this a few times. It's an extremely rocky period. Just too bad It's come at a relatively positive time in terms of reopening. A lot of the time, macro news trumps micro news, unless there's company specifics that are viewed worthy of demand in the share. It's a shame but here we are again.
A lot of you don't want to admit it but we just aren't seeing brighter days for a while. I just feel sorry for those that bought in during the last rise. This is truly a lth if you can stomach it
Based on all this uncertainty, back and forth etc, I can't see this going anywhere for months. That's for all those that thought it should be a certain price by now etc. No one knows. It will rise and fall accordingly. It's clear that we have been hit hard by more informed shareholders than any of us.
It is highly volatile, speculative and sentiment is low. I personally think it was overbought and oversold and trying to find a level. People seem to think it will just shoot up, but it will take strong news, results, confidence for this to happen. Who knows when it will, bit it can. However no point predicting it
You know what is funny about you lot? You go on as if there's rules to what shareholders should be saying. All I did was state something that I wasn't aware of, as I've not been keeping up. Ok, it may be old or irrelevant r whatever, but all this 'deramper' nonsense is just you guys getting way ahead of yourself. The sp is where it is for a reason and my opinion is that things like this play a part. As I've stated many times, I'm happy where I'm at in terms of holding and staying in for my target. However, let's not kid ourselves. We've been stagnant and there's reasons for this. If I'm wrong about news etc or not saying credible things, then so be it, but the trend isn't up atm. I've taken a literal long term few and don't think we'll reach what some people think we should be for 6-9 months perhaps.
Now most of you will simply say I'm deramping, instead of saying,' respectfully, your opinion isn't to my liking' or something like that. I didn't know that every shareholder must believe the sp will reach certain levels because of articles and opinions. That's what I've noticed with some if you. It's just as credible as what I've said, which isn't that credible according to you guys. We'll see anyway, I'm sure we will be over £1 in no time at all. Some of you lost me when you kept saying that it should be higher etc. It wil be higher when it's meant, not because of news articles and covid stats
Has anyone seen the FT article about a potential revolt? Doesn't seem overly promising. Also for us to say that it won't be until 2024 before pre-covid attendance levels are reached is potentially alarming.
I think there's very important things behind the scenes that needs clarifying/sorting. It's key to confidence. Not sure how markets are going to react on this one. Hopefully the positive articles make a difference, but it's a complete toss up atm
Crypto is global. He's clearly got a vested interest in people keeping their money in the UK economy and UK stocks/funds etc. To say you can lose all of your money is stating the absolute obvious with any investment. He's just speaking to people that may not have otherwise gone into Crypto and are now. Self interest at play imo. Even if an altcoin has the potential to fall 100%, the same can be said about a rise and other stocks. Tbh, where's the evidence of this as well?? I was once 80% down on a ftse250 stock. Didn't for one minute lose all my money