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That was assuming the fairly standard 280W panels, of dimensions 1m x 1.6m, the sort we saw on the container roof during the roadshow.

@taskmaster, I scribbled this back in July "By my reckoning, they need 16 panels and 12 hours of sunlight to make 1kg H2".
We've no idea what a 40kW fuel cell would do with 1kg H2 sadly, I dont think AFC ever published any numbers to help calculate that.

Not sexy enough?
And nobody would believe it could power the whole site, which I suspect, they rather want Joe Public to believe they might be doing with the fuel cell.

Thanks Bananaman2, I too did the back of envelope sums a while back and I'm sure they'll either need a LOT of panels, or a LOT of time to generate. Perhaps both :), Perhaps with Power Logistics to step in where necessary....

Thanks Klunk, I guess that also satisfies 2 & 3, I just thought it was odd to have so many batteries in the chain.
Fuel cell > MSP battery > Kempower battery > Vehicle battery. What efficiency losses in that chain I wonder?

Well I guess (4) is verified, the press release for Power Logistics mentions cryptically "HVO-compatible generators", and HVO is diesel by another name (https://www.crownoil.co.uk/faq/hvo-fuel/).

I have a few thoughts, which I hope you can help me dispel, I'm not bashing, I'm just eager to understand;

1) I posted ages ago that the power AFC might harvest from a few solar panels - in order they could electrolyse _large_ amounts of H2 - seemed grossly insufficient, not to mention there's no guarantee of clear enough skies for good solar generation. So I'm really curious to know more details about that.

2) I'm also curious that AFC previously supplied their own box'o'battery to charge from the fuel cell, do we understand MSP will now providing that battery storage to charge from the fuel cell, were MSP always providing that part even during the roadshow?

3) Ff thats the case, will KemPower be charging their portable battery packs (the T800-P40's) from MSP's battery storage?

4) I'm somewhat sceptical about Power Logistics products being mentioned as used 'in-tandem with' the AFC fuel-cell (implying in parallel?), rather than 'in-combination with', and it makes me suspect the rest of the ExtremeE site may be powered by their well known diesel generators.

Yuck, what a pathetic way to absolve yourself from any responsibility to both the environment and all future generations.

Totally agree, I'm really keen to see some more details on the AFC products in use, this is a showcase of not just the fuel cell, but what ancillaries AFC can supply (either by themselves or in partnership) to get the job done.

I see that ExtremeE did state "The system use water and sun to generate hydrogen power", so there'll be (so far) unreleased AFC technology in use I guess. I look forward to that solar electrolysis product being RNS'd shortly.

Thanks, I'm really interested to know what they have planned for that, could this be ammonia cracking, surely they dont want to risk it being solar powered!

Umm, do we know this for a fact Klunk ?

“ · SOFC systems to be used in the stationary power market, initially for decentralised power plants in cities, factories, data centres and electric vehicle charging infrastructure”

Rather disappointing AFC aren’t the first mover here.

can we leave the off-topic chat on facebook or twitter, nobody is coming to this Afc Energy board to read about whether or not complete strangers like the idea of vaccines.

Do we know how many employees there are?

I envy your ability to trade the peaks and troughs, took a perm role two years ago which imposed two levels of approval for any trade I wanted to make, and it takes almost the entire day for them to grant it.
Hope you've made good profits, onwards and upwards eh!

After being stuck in the doldrums for so many years (admittedly @daz there were some trading patterns to be had), it's rather hard currently to drag ones eyes away from the trade gate feed isn't it!

@haggis, it's a ban on purely combustion powered vehicles, so most if not all will end up buying a mild hybrid which will certainly be in the affordable range for low income families. And if they can't manage that, then maybe they shouldn't be upgrading their old vehicle anyway. The rise and rise of financed cars on the roads indicates people are already living well beyond their means. I dont remember the last 10+ year old car I saw on the road around here.

Wow, £10m.

Im wary of these unsubstantiated rises, especially when an RNS is released after the rise. It just makes me think news of an impending RNS was leaked and those in the know started buying.

Hopefully saying goodbye to shady LLCs gives confidence to any third parties who may want to collaborate or invest.