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Don't get ahead of yourselves - we've been here before and things have dropped back. Good news is coming for sure but still a few hurdles to get over before the SP consistently heads northwards for the long run

Agreed the news today was massive and it should have led to a bigger bump. However, in light of what's happened elsewhere today and how AML has reacted previously to general bad news it's held up pretty well. To finish up on a massively red day is positive in my opinion.

Hopefully things stabilise and we see a general upward trend now. A nice gentle incline over the next few months would be great - rather than a massive rise followed by an inevitable fall...

Nice to see a bit of a swing - hopefully the sentiment remains positive and we see an uptick and stabilisation for a period of time! Can never tell with AML as we're bucking the trend a little today with FTSE being down in general.

See what Boris has to say later...

Does this tie in with the response you got from AML r.e shorters Dunnie? e.g The SP is being kept artificially low (relatively anyway) at the moment to make it unattractive to shorters? You'd expect 5 million quids worth to increase the SP (unless VET is buying up the shares of the outgoing large holders).

And the Ferrari engine is pretty poor - though things could change in '22 and they're using tokens for next year too iirc... Still, based on the current performance it'd be a risk going with Ferrari. Saying all that though, Honda was a risk a few years ago and they seem to be doing ok now.

Guessing they won't go back to Renault though given the rough split

Figures tbh. MMs have been reporting buys as sells for a while - so these guys must have been building a holding (for the cheapest price possible) - hopefully the price picks up a bit now...

My buy from earlier showing as a sell. Go figure!!

Topped up in the end. SP seems to be being pushed down again - certainly makes me wonder if someone is building a bigger holding and MMs are dropping the price hunting for shares....

Anyway, great update - onwards and upwards

Yeah, hopefully helps a little bounce back - timed just as I'm gathering funds for another top-up!

Try a buy limit order - might well get filled :)

Agree @Nevas. It'd be suicide to do it again - they talk about 2 week stints of it (as one option) but just don't see that working.... Without another furlough scheme (or similar) shutting the country down just wouldn't work - and the economic impact of that would be massive.

Gut feel is that we'll live with harsher social distancing rules and a back track on "go to the office, use public transport" mantra. Pubs and restaurants subject to early closure etc.

The demographic on this wave seems to be younger people (out at bars etc) and households mixing (in houses duh) - if those contacts can be reduced/stopped then hopefully that'll bring the spread under control... That can be achieved with the majority of businesses kept open.

Just my 2ps worth...

Can't buy anything at the moment (via HL) but can sell with no issues (can't even by 1k shares). You'd think with all the sells going on there would be loads of shares floating about to buy.... Smells of manipulation to me....

This share seems to have been manipulated for a while (buys showing as sells for example). Volume was relatively consistent yesterday and I find it hard to believe the ratio of buys:sells is the true story.

As others have said, the news was good - but there's potentially a big fund raise required which might have spooked a few people.

DYOR and decide for yourself whether to hold, sell or buy.

May not mean anything, but sum of sells + buys is ~ 8 mill short of the reported total volume.....

Big sell down and still ended the day blue! Can't help but feel something is brewing!

Could just be the usual manipulation of the SP (e.g buys showing as sells)

SP seems to be holding up pretty well considering the buy:sell ratio....

For sure Rox. The SP will recover (although maybe not to the highs of before) in the long term as Covid becomes a thing of the past.
Not sure it'll recover as well as some others in aviation though as BA is more long haul focused which may see more of a hit in the "new world" as people travel less for business and/or businesses do more things remotely.

Just my opinion, DYOR etc.

Yep - was a MASSIVE dilution as well - nearly double the number of shares now in circulation iirc?

Could always lock it away in a fixed term bond (or bonds) somewhere - that way at least you're earning something but it's harder to get at.... Or put some into premium bonds - least you'll have a regular surprise (if you're lucky and max out the allowance) and there's always a chance of something bigger to keep your hopes up!