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Hi Jain's, I cannot see a tr1 in January 2023, can you point me to it please.

I believe Colin Ikin is the ex- chairman of Cominco Resources before it was bought out by Kropz.

The May 2023 rock phosphate price still sitting at all time high of $345 per tonne. Check the price chart going back to 1960. If there ever was a time to mine rick phosphate, it is now! Kerching!

https://divercitytimes.com/commodity/phosphaterock.php

.. Extrader's account? It's all becoming very woolly.

Another defunct project, the fertilizer factory. RoC is littered with broken dreams. If they get their 'sh&t' together this time round, they could be a very very rich country.

Plus Kropz (KRPZ) is likely to announce funding and go ahead of their Hinda mine near Pointe Noire soon. This was discussed in the meeting with RoC president Nguesso in April this year.

..if you knew the company was generating an estimated £7-8 million free cash flow per month? ie 50 000 tonnes per month production. Well it probably is and we will have confirmation of production end of month.

Significantly there was there was no bridge loan drawdown in May. The drawdowns have previously been like clock in last week of each month. If they are now reliably producing 50 000 tpm phosphate concentrate or more, they should be self funding and start paying down debt. A huge milestone if April was indeedthe last debt draw down. We will know at end of the month update..

Thanks for the tip, Jiving, I will do that. Delisting is an area of share investing I am not really much familiar with (thankfully).

I totally missed or forgot that bit, Jiving. Thanks for that, very reassuring!

I suppose the only other route is if Glencore does not call the meeting and if the original Zioc large block are in cahoots and they call the meeting. But anyway, nothing has thus fundamentally changed from before.

The reason for asking this now is that there is a risk in Kropz (KRPZ) that I am also interested in (where the us actually a 85% sole ownership by one shareholder,). It just got me thinking..

I know I will get slaughtered for asking this naive and possibly stupid question. I am sorry if this has been discussed before since last November. Does the Glencore incorporation into Zanaga shares make a potential delisting more or less likely? And, why would they not go down this route?

"The Rorschach test is a projective psychological test in which subjects' perceptions of inkblots are recorded." Wikipedia

It is funny how the human mind makes things up in the absence of real data . Fascinating. Sorry, a diversion to pass the time :-)

We have had no real relevant news for weeks now, the discussion has now degenerated into wistful babbling. We need to hear from the Bod, even it is more cut 'n paste..

Https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/electric-car-battery-life-range-record-b2344689.html

24/05/2023

"Electric car range set to double with first production of breakthrough battery Mass production of next-generation battery backed by Volkswagen expected to begin next year."

"The lithium-manganese-iron-PHOSPHATE (LMFP) battery has already passed all necessary safety tests, the company said, and has a life cycle of 4,000 charge-discharge cycles – making it suitable for everyday electric cars."

https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2023/05/02/2658716/0/en/Lithium-Iron-Phosphate-Batteries-Market-Size-to-Reach-24-6-Billion-at-a-13-7-CAGR-by-2027-Report-by-MarketsandMarkets.html

Also ...

Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries Market Size to Reach $24.6 Billion, at a 13.7% CAGR by 2027 – Report by MarketsandMarkets™

May 01, 2023

Not long to go, a lot shall be revealed in the accompanying updates on Elandsfontein and Hinda. If they have ket ramping up production and sales this should do very well. And the Hinda update could also be very interesting, will we get the confirmation, or at very least roadmap for funding and go ahead. The recent Patrice Motsepe visit to the RoC points to the fact that this is kicking off..

I suspect some folks (the silent lurkers) may take a punt on this going into end of June.

Busy place the RoC...so many projects lined up..

https://www.adiac-congo.com/content/mines-6-000-emplois-prevus-dans-le-projet-sel-de-potasse-148483

(Google translated)

Mines: 6,000 jobs planned in the potash salt project

Monday, May 22, 2023 - 1:45 p.m.

"The Minister of State, Minister of Mining Industries and Geology , Pierre Oba, led, on May 20 in Brazzaville, the meeting to assess all the actions necessary for the launch, in June, of the construction phase. installations and underground works on the potash salt deposit on the Mboukoumassi permit of Luyuan des mines Congo (LMC), in the Kouilou department. This phase, which will extend until 2025, will create 6,000 direct jobs"

### In this following paragraph mentions port quay.. not sure where or what??

"In this phase of construction and installation, the company will focus on the underground extraction, the ground processing plant and the industrial zone housing the depot and the port quay. “ We will create more than 6,000 direct jobs. Completion of the construction work is scheduled for the end of 2025. The year 2026 will be devoted to the production trial since the target of two million tons per year should be reached in 2027,” said Liu Jin . He wanted the government to finalize the signing of all the documents."

For those confused by ownership structure...ARC Fund/ Kropz/ Cominco...see the corporate structure diagram on this page.

https://www.kropz.com/about-us/who-we-are

For those doubting the Hinda mine financing and go-ahead is imminent..from last month news 26 April 2023.. Google translated. (**Note: Cominco is 90% owned by Kropz, ie a subsidiary, RoC government has 10% share**).

"Congolese President Denis Sassou Nguesso received in audience on April 25, a delegation of investors led by South African billionaire Patrice Motsepe. The discussions focused in particular on the progress of the Hinda phosphate project in the Kouilou department. It is an area known for its high concentration of nitrogen and potassium, two elements that go into the composition of phosphate.   

Through COMINCO SA, the local subsidiary of Africa Rainbow Capital (ARC), the investment company in which he is the majority shareholder, the businessman is expected to invest just over 600 million dollars, or approximately 356.5 billion FCFA, to develop this project for an annual production of 4 million tons, with the key to the creation of 600 direct jobs for the Congolese. The related mining agreement was signed in 2018 with the Congolese authorities.  

"We have come to present to the President of the Republic the progress of the work that we are currently carrying out on the ground. We are going to provide 600 million dollars in terms of investments for this project. Our objective is to be able to start the operation as quickly as possible," said Patrice Motsepe, who is also president of the Confederation of African Football.

 

COMINCO is in fact at the stage of the definitive feasibility study, the report of which will be submitted to the government with a view to obtaining a license to exploit this deposit for 26 years.

It should be noted that phosphate is a natural resource with multiple uses, notably used to produce fertilizers."

https://www.sikafinance.com/marches/congo-patrice-motsepe-va-investir-600-millions-de-dollars-dans-un-projet-minier_40388

Plus there is a YouTube video of Motsepe chatting to the President Nguesso on this visit.

https://youtu.be/5xTmlFWNSFA

This woul be the corrected header, for my assumptions as set out previously.

Hands up from me! I have just noticed I made a fundamental error in my initial back of envelope calc. Kropz only has 74% of Elandsfontein (BEE partner ARC fund has other 26%). So potential initial £100m pa free cash flow should be £74m pa only. Plus once any accrued tax losses are used up another chunk will go to tax. That calc was for 60kt pm production which is still less than planned full 83ktpm production (ie 1m tpa).