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After all , the increase today of 4 - 6 percent is not exactly thrilling. It infers the news does not change such a lot.

Look, it is a serious question. And I expect a serious answer, not a load of xxxx. ( not sure i will get it ) I have noticed that a 'good' share will increase on a steady gradient, not in steps ( up or down ) when news is released. So there must be some type of 'delayed reaction', it is not instant. This could be due to the big boys trying to buy in, but discreetly in small packets, as they slowly realise what it all means. Maybe it is that the computers in the city take time to decide what the results mean.

I can understand it might take one day for the results to be analysed, but not why the share should , as the guy below infers' soar past 400' over a few months. Why not today ? Nothing will have changed and there will be no news. Does it just take time for the pension funds etc to rebalance their books to favour , say, this share ?

Lets' hope all the positive vibes released here by the good news are not just emotions. If the share price is supposed to 'sail past 400' as somebody puts it, why did it not do that this morning ? Maybe somebody can explain. I am going back to pickpocketing, much easier. Just put up a sign at a railway station ' beware of pickpockets'. Apologies to those with zero ( negative actually ) sense of humour.

Many Thanks for this

I need to go through it

The people on here who profess to be experts say things that show they have no idea what the results will be next week. So why even waste time talking about it? It is pure speculation. True I'm in, but at least I recognise I am only trusting in the Gods. Added to which, do we really know that the professionals don't find out first ? My understanding is the computers can react in milliseconds, so there is zero chance of profiting on the news, it has already happened. Glad to be contradicted if people think otherwise. Other people seem to think the directors are trading because they know the results in advance. So why get involved in something where others have an advantage ? I have even seen people apparently not even knowing there is a bit of news, and asking why the price has moved. I am not trying to be rude, I just have not heard any valid argument for investing in one share. Or are you telling me you are really making big money by doing so ?

Googled it, the first one said ' ETFs are for suckers'. But I note Bridgewater has virtually all its money in 3 ETFs, VWD, EEM, SPY. Need to check out. Of course Lyxor do a Bridewater ETF, so why bother playing with the market when Bridgewater is sort of successful can do it for you ? Not that they done great the last few years. They probably worry too much about crashes and the rest.

Actually a forum discussing ETFs might be the thing. I am losing faith that individual shares are worth the time, how can anybody really beat the market ? Anyway I am more of a themes ( eg economy ) person than a company detail person. Don't want to bother with AGMs, company reports and the rest. But not just a world etf, rather I would like to trade different specific ETFs, I believe that is the correct route. But only for me, maybe.

What I really need is a shares or investment forum where can discuss wider issues than single shares e.g. is it time to sell Tech, is it time to buy Australia, and so on. Does anybody know of a good website ?

By the way, I confess the guy who accused me of a share disinformation campaign was right. I am working for Soviet Intelligence. Next week, supposed to be impersonating King Charles. Sounds a doddle, just have to pick up some old dear at a horse show, then sit in the back of a Land Rover Discovery waving. After that, it is back to Sharechat to crash US tech. Hope it is still frothy.

Of course, anybody who bought Google at the start and STAYED IN, would now be rather well off. Are the chipmakers at the start of 20 years non-stop rises ? Answers on a postcard please.

Only a quick reply as tired tonight. Maybe more to follow. Warren Buffett says to buy when there is blood on the floor. So if the chart shows a massive decline, it might be a buy. Buying when the chart shows a massive rise may not be a good idea. For example, would you buy US Tech today ? I would rather buy fish and chips than a US chipmaker right now. But clearly one might say, one needs to understand WHY the chart is up and down. But that presumes that the market is rational and logic - in my opinion, it is at least partly not . It is as much emotional, and always goes too far either up or down. Anyway time for rest.

My investing is a combination of charts and basic themes eg a recession or depression is good for pawnbrokers

As regards pawnbrokers and loans, you seem to agree my basis was correct. If indeed there is a serious recession. I believe the Ukraine war is essentially the cause

As regards charts, they seemed OK when I invested but not since. Yes my investing mode takes a lot from charts, whether that is bizarre I don't know, but it seems to work usually. I suspect only bizarre methods yield good profits, how else can one be different enough to profit ?

I have been called an idiot since I was born, so that does not bother me. One gets used to it.

Also, whilst I do not base everything on charts, I do tend to agree that the chart looks BAD

You are correct, I had not researched properly

Now you have explained , I at least understand logic of discussion

Though still seem to be contrary views as to whether overall a recession is good for this business, that is how the various revenue streams play out. Does a recession really increase or decrease pawnbroking profits ? Not really sure, although I get the impression the consensus is that it does.

Maybe it is leveraged on ftse250 which has also gone up a lot the last hour

Yes I think so. But in the last hour the price has gone from 960 to 990. Circa. I just don't understand it.

Slightly different question. If you were selling, would you put a limit order, given the wide fluctuation well 2 percent in a day in price ? 2 percent may not sound much but still

I totally accept what you say about low volume. But is it possible these things are manipulated by hedge funds or others, or can we take the prices at face value ?

How benefit if sales down ?

Judging by the share movements,which have no logical basis, the buyers and sellers are on drugs . Perhaps they can give me some. Otherwise I will have to sell.