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Vodafone Equity ratio 1.7
Debt to Equity 1.4
AT&T, Verizon, Telefonica etc. have balance sheets significantly worse with debt to equity around 3 and equity ratios barely above 1.
This is pure short seller/MM/ALGO driven manipulation.
Mulder
Vod equity ratio stands at ca 0.41 as per the report released on 16th May. Equity ratio can never be higher than 1.
Probably why all of them have made poor market lagging returns last 20 years including divs. Too much debt is a bad thing. Paying divs instead of paying off your debt is bad for investors long term, they just can't see it, or don't want to.
Absolute bo**ocks mesh trader. These are basics, do the math for yourself, look at the balance sheet.
Nobody buys U.K. shares anymore for gods sake, it’s all utter dross listed on a hated shrinking exchange priced in a terminal decline currency ( thank the brexit scum ) The companies a Jurassic Park of declining business models. You can get 5.5 pc risk free on 3 month US T bills and you chase dividends on shyte to lose two thirds of your capital. Jesus tapdancing christ get the cash back while you can. This is toast, capital raise and dividend suspension will knock .30p off the price.
"Absolute bo**ocks mesh trader. These are basics, do the math for yourself, look at the balance sheet."
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What is the expression for Equity ratio?
Focus on the Debt to Equity ratios
VOD is 1.4; other telcos closer to 3.
Quick ratio for VOD has also improved from 0.8 to 0.9.
This daily drop is blatant MM.
Mulder
"Debt to equity ratio" is not the same ratio as the "Equity ratio". I was and am merely pointing out the inaccuracy in your previous statement.
Guys you can quote all the numbers and abuse you want but if your invested then that’s it. If your short, last 7 days your winning but, as we all know it’s timing and that’s always down to the individual. Personally I’m 10k down on a £100k long positive, but I have conviction and I’ve been in this place many times. I’ve seen all these comments before on many shares I’ve been in. Same old words, same old rules. Good luck to you all. X
I bought a couple of times between 76.5 and 77 this morning. I think we're about to see a relief rally.
Personally I’m 10k down on a £100k long positive," .."
That is where a lot of the other players differ with regards to plays of private Investors
Many of the much bigger holders including Investment banks and Institutional Holders , will not place all their entire investment on just a Long bet ...they will hedge a part of it using Derivative products and shorting .... especially during these periods of what is total uncertainty ..like the US Debt ceiling Default nonsense
The increase in Derivative bets and shorting then leads to those on the other sides of the bets, selling shares into the market
The big holders may not be selling of their holding but they will no doubt have taken some hedge protection to make some money on the other side of their Long bets
"Many of the much bigger holders including Investment banks and Institutional Holders , will not place all their entire investment on just a Long bet "
The difference between institutional Investors and the average retail investor, like me, is that they have to show annual profits, whereas I can sit on a Capital Paper Loss ad infinitum and use the dividends for income or reinvestment. The beauty of dividend reinvestment when sitting on a paper loss, is that it not only brings down your average cost per share but when the the price eventually turns, and exceeds your book price, the capital paper gain increases in proportion to the number of extra shares obtained from topping up. Retail investors don't need to copy the professionals to make a profit, as they're completely different animals.
It’s obviously not my only investment. It’s all in an Isa so I’ll just leave long, it will definitely go up mid term and I’ll keep the div while I wait.