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I have come to post about Mr H*s aspiration to turn £1k into £100k. With a few trades over 1-2 days, one trade was much more successful due to the volatility - the stock fell from £1.05 on 9 April 2019 to 20p and bounced. So, + -, Mr H turned £1k into around £1,660 from recall.
That means Mr H has got to get it right around <200 times in similar fashion excluding any multiplier effects ie just pure straight line cals.
However, today, Fri 12 April, 2019, nothing more has been tweeted about daily trades. Not sure what has happened?
Suffice to say, that Mr H was attempting to do DAILY trading.
I was following sometime ago, one blogger who attempted to turn £1k into £1m but for some reason, after a short time, no more being said.
There are a lot of fund managers out there who earn a living investing in stocks both in the UK and the USA.
As professionals, their record is ranking and their funds produce yearly results.
On topic as one REMer said on Twitter he lost money etc and from the caption title above, REM was one of the most successful in that period for an AIM stock as it turned £1 into £95 [0.04p to 2.25p or £1m mkt cap to £95m mkt cap].
So, this topic ends as one may now be aware that the challenge appears great.
Some have made it and they have gone down in history for a long record.
News,
Fri, 12 Apr 2019
Not editing.
Lol. Its O.K - we got there in the end about the REM takeover of BCN.
Oh, you may have read about H wanting to turn £1 into £100k and that has really stirred up imaginations.
However, as I have posted REM was the only stock that went up 95x, hence £1k went to £95,000.
The Founder of REM*s other stock went from 0.35p to 11p+. That is nearly 30x. So, one would have to put in £3,000 + to achieve the same result of nearly 90x plus.
Not sure how people lost money on a stock that went 95x and 30x?
LOADS of news passing through re:lithium especially Western Australia and hydroxide etc. Very critical info - I have liked it on Twitter.
News,
Sun, 7 April, 2019
Just finished the Sunday Times - nothing about EV*s or lithium etc.
@news. KDNC effectively offered £1 for BCN shares as part of the merger proposals:
"Rebuttal of Proposed Merger" (30 September 2016)
https://polaris.brighterir.com/public/bacanora_lithium/news/rns/story/xpyndjx
===[
The midpoint of the Proposed Offer range represents a premium of only 13.1% to the Bacanora closing share price of 88.50 pence per share on 29 September 2016 (being the last trading date prior to this announcement);
]===
88.5 * 113.1 = 100.09p
If you want to give a range, it can be calculated from this paragraph of the announcement:
===[
The merger exchange ratio proposed by REM is between 135 and 141 REM shares for each outstanding Bacanora share ('the Proposed Offer')
]===
i.e. The 100.09p corresponds to ((135 + 141) / 2) = 138 REM shares, meaning that the offer range was:
Low: 135/138 * 100.09 = 97.91p
High: 141/138 * 100.09 = 102.27p
i.e. 98p to 102p, not the "88.5p - £1" you are currently stating. I'd just stick to quoting £1 if I were you. ;-)
Apologies if I have misunderstood the meaning behind your quote, as I've just realised you might be trying to say REM offered (approximately) £1 when the BCN share price was 88.5p? Which is true!
Ob.
Typo: Should read attempt, not attempting.
On Twitter last night, Fri 5 April, 2019, someone called "H" [shortened to initial] tweeted that he is going to attempting turning £1,000 into £100k!.
As far as I am aware, the only co on AIM to do that is Rare Earth Minerals Plc [REM] under David Lenigas, Chairman. Mr Lenigas started REM from Zest plc, a shell.
Due to the Sonora drilling [lithium Mexico], the stock went from 0.04p to 2.25p, £1m mkt cap + to £95 million, thus multiplying 95 times. That is £1,000 became £95,000 at its height.
Needless to say, Sonora lithium was a big resource which Midas said [posted on this forum before], it could supply 9-10% of global supply then.
REM went into records as one of the most successful AIM co*s for one year. Each yr, its different co*s.
Naturally, when the takeover by REM of BCN [Sonora Lithium, Mexico] was rejected at 88.5p - £1, the efficient mkt theory kicked in.
Thought I would relate the history.
Many others have commented on H*s tweet and said it needs to be done over 30 times and another 24 times.
Moral of the story, if one got in early at 0.04p, it is different with someone getting in at 0.9p and so forth. All shares normally do not stand still due to news flow that affect "valuation"?
History now.
News,
Sat, 6 April, 2019
Just seen some external news on lithium [ REM -KDNC*s biz]
"Volkswagen purchases lithium from Ganfeng."- 8hrs ago [In German]
https://twitter.com/HC_Haplo/status/1114123624523264000
This is interesting. Will need to find out more and why. This is the type of external news I was talking about earlier.
Fri, 5 April 2019
Typo error. Fri, 5 April, 2019
I have now covered as much as I can at this stage to research the BASE data publicly available?
I will continue to monitor the information as it comes in as and when?
I will have to look at the macro situation externally?
I will have to evaluate the REM [legacy] and KDNC projects to further determine the ranking of these projects?
I have to determine which PROJECT or PROJECTS will increase the value and therefore the share price of REM - KDNC, if any?
I will have to re-calculate the mark-to-market value of REM-KDNC*s projects and the discount or premium attributed?
I will have to see if any are best in class and matched against peers and why, say, BCN has been just given a target price of 72p [Speculative buy by Cannacord on 4 Apr 2-19 although the full note is not available to Joe Public] although the Black Scholes fair value is higher from recall. Interesting to see the workings.
The REM takeover price for BCN was 88.5p-£1 but the co said it undervalued their co?
I will have to see the EXIT events for any of the investments or if they produce EBITDA and respective P/E and whether they have the industry P/E or not?
I will have to gauge REM-KDNC*S current strategy going forward given the 3 new Australian lithium projects. Example, do they go on to mine etc or remain an investment co?
Each one of the REM-KDNC investments will have to be EVALUATED since some are more advanced and others are early stage exploration co*s?
I have to determine what TIME-scales are involved in the JV*s etc and other investments?
I have to evaluate if any could become a Game Changer? The last game changer for REM was to takeover BCN, hence the mkt cap went from £1m+ as a shell co to some £95m mkt cap [0.04p to 2.25p]? To have reached or to attained some 5p [per the Twitter mention], it would reach some £200m+ mkt cap which is where Nemaska is at, awaiting funding? Please check. History now.
So, as an investor of REM-KDNC, these and many other workings have to be done to determine fair value? Fair value will be different for everyone as well as time scales etc? Least but not last, one always has to expect the unexpected.?
As I said, the stock market game is about NUMBERS? Even for stocks that go up due to sentiment, it appears that it is also forward potential?
Sorry, not editing.
By the way, when I signed in, I can go to the beta site but I have not tried it. No one has said whether it is different or the same etc.
So, I end this forum for now.
News,
Sat, 5 April, 2019.
"Argonaut Resources leveraged to drilling near BHP*s IOCG discovery in South Australia."- Proactive Investors Australia, 13 hrs ago, Fri 4 April 2019.
Quote:
"Auroch holds a likely Eastern Extension to the Torrens JV Gravity Anomaly."
https://twitter.com/LONDONAIMCAP/status/1113823392833122305
On-topic as REM-KDNC owns 6.7% of Auroch, listed in Australia.
Argonaut and Aeris Resources are in a JV re:Torrens copper project, South Australia.
Their 1st hole assay results are pending.
Posted earlier on this site, hence why continuing info here so that it is not broken up, the Torrens project could be bigger than giant BHP*s Olympic Dam?Please check back to read.
News
Fri, 4 April 2019
"This DEAL really highlights how lithium continues to evolve as a strategic mineral." -Chris Berry, 1 April 2019
[Embedded in this tweet is the Reuters article: "China*s GanfengLithium boosts stake in Argentine project with Lithium Americas."
https://twitter.com/cberry/status/1112764426342539266
Comment:
The last 2 posts to this was about the Ganfeng Lithium deal. So, the size of the deal ie 12.5% stake for US$160m= £123m does illustrate the M & A currently.
Certainly, the REM 5p mentioned by someone on Twitter [SP high 2.25p = £95m so 5p is around the £200m mkt cap mark] would be more illustrative of the mkt caps now of Nemaska [awaiting funding] at C$283.94m or Lithium America JV with Ganfeng at C$494.34m?? These appear to be the benchmark for lithium mkt caps?
History now of REM-Sonora Lithium, Mexico.
Tues, 2 April, 2019
News.
Just imagine:
Today, Ganfeng paid US$160m = £123 MILLION for a 12.5% stake to increase it from 37.5% to 50% in Lithium Americas. Lithium Americas has just started construction.
Hence, REM* former 20% stake in BCN could have been sold for big wonga if they had got to the stage of funding.
On BCN, Analyst2 said that BCN is now 2 years behind time today?
Everyone is now selling their stakes down eg Pilbara Minerals [up to 49% which could fetch more than US$1b]. Pilbara is more advanced than Lithium Americas.
History now.
News,
Mon 1 April 2019
Lithium Americas - Ganfeng has to pay extrapolation inversion maths, say US$640m for a 50% stake [using the 12.5% > US$160m].
I just checked: "Talison Lithium backs $848m Chinese takeover bid." -Proactive Investors, 9.12.12
This is about the largest lithium project in Western Australia ie GREENBUSHES.
Our Founder talked about this M & A deal then.
Comment:
Looks as if one could buy a whole co a lot cheap in 2012?
PLS [Pilbara Minerals] is also in the news to sell at stake [up to 49% in Pilgangoora lithium project in W.Australia] which analysts speculate could fetch more than $1bn [posted earlier] .So, lithium M & A in the news.
On-topic for industry news as BCN was an REM legacy project.
1 Apr 2019
News
Gone...but not forgotten :)
Lithium Americas news today, 1 Apr 2019
Ganfeng has increased it stake from 37.5% to 50% for US$160million. Construction remains on track for 1st production H2 2020.
Article: "Lithium Americas announced US$160m project investment by Ganfend Lithium in Cauchari Olaroze & Paries to jointly evaluate an increase to 40tpa."- Junior Mining Newwork.
Comment:
Barksy1 on KDNC has provided the SEDAR link to the above news.
It is interesting that Ganfeng*s increase of ANOTHER 12.5% stake to 50% came to US$160m.
Therefore, using simple maths inversion, 50% would roughly equate US$640 million!!!!
This is BEFORE the lithium mine is PRODUCING as it is just at the CONSTRUCTION stage.
Lithium America is ahead of Nemaska because Ganfeng is a partner. Interesting that the Lithium Americas & Ganfeng want to INCREASE production to 40tpa.
So, lithium news in on the move.
Lithium Americas mkt cap is C$502m @$5.67 [with JV]
Nemaska [awaiting funding] mkt cap is C$283.94m @C34c
Bacanora [BCN - awaiting funding] mkt cap £27.8m @20.68p
On topic - industry news.
KDNC owns 2.77% in Bacanora and 30% JV [2]
News
1 Apr 2019
Barksy1-thank you for your message. I am not surprised that on the beta site, REM cannot be seen. Eventually, may be phased out.
News...do you know that on the new beta.lse.co.uk you cannot access REM. A few have been invited to try it.
"Rare earth spotlight brings Hastings Technology to market."-Australian Financial Review , 1 Apr 2019.
Thanks to jmb2 who posted the above on KDNC. However, the 1st part is seen and the rest via a paywall.
However, below is the quote from the AFR from the full article:
"Investors were told Hastings is developing the 2ND RARE EARTH mine and associated processing plant OUTSIDE CHINA. FIRST mining at its Yangibana project, located in Western Australia is slated late 2020 and FIRST PRODUCTION in early 2021."
Note: KDNC - REM owns 30% JV in Yangibana -P2.
Comment: Many investors may not have noticed but the market is n o longer valuing KDNC on a mark-to-market basis given it may now be aware of the investments in several advanced stage projects and more importantly, like Hastings, it could become the 2nd largest rare earth co in Australia after Lynas [Westfarmers recently bid $1.5b to takeover Lynas but was rejected.]??
Please check accordingly. Just an observation.
News,
Mon, 1 April 2019
The Australian stock market is now opened:
1)Hastings Technology Metals [ASX:HAS] is under a trading halt currently.
2)AIS - no movement as assays are awaited, hence AOU also no movement.
This relates to thed Aeris Resources [ASX:AIS] drill re: Lake Torrents, S. Australia [near the renowned BHP Olympic Dam].
3)Alliance Minerals [ASX:A40] is up 5.71% to A18.5c, MKT CAP A$228.4 Million even with no announcements. Alliance Minerals owns the high profile Bald Hill lithium deposit. KDNC [REM] has recently acquired the PICASSO Lithium licence near Bald Hill.
4)European Metals Holdings [EMH, listed in London and Australia] - the share price is also up 5% to A31.5c, Mkt Cap A$46.99m. EMH*s owns the Cinovec lithium deposit in Czech Republic.
News,
Mon 1 April 2019.
DYOR. Please check from Hotcopper.
Contd:
advanced stage. Just before KDNC*s share price took off, it was at 0.11p. It hit 0.49p at its height and fell back to 0.38p. What caused this? It was the KDNC/Macarthur Minerals [MMS] RNS that said MMS had signed an agreement with Glencore as off-taker to take 4mt of iron ore for 10 yrs at US$4b and possible extension of another 10 yrs. However, there was a clarification RNS so please check.
Shortly after, KDNC did a placing for £1.3m at 0.15p.
So, KDNC shares appear to be no longer just tracking mark to market given the recent Macarthur announcement.
Why? With more advanced projects of a X size, the market is looking slightly more forward and is awaiting the funding news ETC?
One will have to wait to see?
Suffice to say, research as much as can be done at THIS STAGE is complete.
No much more can be done until further news/RNS.
This said research on this forum cannot tell any REMer or KDNCer to Hold, Buy, Sell ? Why?
If it is a fund, more commerical informdation will be needed. Specialist analysts in their field eg iron ore, copper etc will fly out to the co*s site via site visit etc. Macarthur hosted an institutional site visit recently prior to the Glencore news. These analysts and their research depts will have far more access to geological data, technical drilling reports of Olympic Dam, say etc to be able to come to a conclusion.
NO INFO IS STATIC. There could be macro news or mining funding news overall etc that could be relevant.
At this time, all junior mining stocks at almost at the bottom - see the tweet I posted from Paul Johnson. This is now all over Twitter. Nemaska, also needing some $400m funding has a share price of C34c, Mkt Cap C$288m. 52 wk high C$1.44 and low C27c. One will also notice that Bacanora*s mkt cap is £29.5m.
So, I am posting on this forum so that it can be seen in 1 place. With thanks.
DYOR. Please check as there can be typo or copying errors from notes. Shares can go up or down.
News,
Sun, 31 Mar 2019.
1:15pm
Cadence Minerals Plc [KDNC formerly REM].
Share price 0.1425p,
Mkt Cap £11.19m,
Shares in Issue 7.851b.
52 wk high 0.49p and low 0.09p dated Fri, 29 Mar 2019
Summary as above:
All the main projects are listed. In recent earlier pages on this forum, each KDNC investment was looked at in d e t a i l from open information and data. Since many of the co*s are listed or based in Australia, it was harder to track them down.
dsfat on LSE KDNC also provided an Australian exploration doc that ranked all of Australia*s minerals & respective co*s [ Link: /member-info.asp?nick=dsfat dated Thur, 28 Mar 2019: KDNC Lithium Assets in Australia]. From this doc, one can see that Bald Hill belonging to Alliance Minerals [A40] was listed & ranked and so was Hastings Technology Metals.
KDNC*s recent 3 lithium asset acquisitions included PICASSO which is near Bald Hill, Western Australia. Hastings has been in the news after Westfarmers [A$38b mkt cap] made a $1.5b offer for Lynas, a rare earth listed Oz co. In dsfat*s doc, Hastings is ranked after Lynas. It was reported in recent news that Lynas is the biggest outside China. So, the Founder*s legacy investment [REM 30% JV in Yangibana [2]] has turned out quite a ? in light of the Lynas publicity. It was reported that the Westfarmers bid lifted other Oz co*s in rare earths shares eg Hastings [ASX:HAS]
Without going over old ground, REMers or KDNCers may be aware that Bacanora lithium-clay Mexico] Macarthur Minerals [iron ore, Oz] ,Hastings [rare earths, Oz] are awaiting funding in the $400m+ area. European Metals [lithium, hard rock, Czech Republic is one step behind as it needs to do the requisite technical studies etc.
Macarthur Minerals listed in Canada also has lithium licences near the famous Pilgangoora area where Pilbara Minerals is situtated [PLS Mkt Cap A$1.4b]. Macarthur also has licences in Nevada, USA for lithium. In overnight news, Nevada for lithium is in the news on Twitter.
As for REM Greenland, also the Founder*s legacy, the co is watching the progress of nearby GGG [ASX] and their world class Kvanjefeld rare earth project. REM holds the licence in their own right 100%.
So, it is only Auroch Minerals [ASX:AOU] that is in the early stage. All eyes will be upon the pending assay results of Aeris Minerals AIS for their Lake Torrens copper project. Auroch is near Lake Torrens. AIS mkt cap is around A$76.9m whilst Auroch is A$6.7m. Why is that? AIS*s per the article I posted said that Lake Torrens could be bigger than the giant Olympic Dam in South Australia. Auroch is at an early stage and will be following up with drilling.
MARKET - VALUATION OF REM-KDNC
In recent times, the market has chosen to value the stock as MARK to MARKET ie the daily stock prices/mkt cap of the co*s investments. In other words, daily portfolio valuation akin to a discovery fund.
However, what has changed in recent times is that many of these investments are now in advanced sta
1)SONORA LITHIUM MEXICO - 2.77% stake [30%JV Bacanora/REM {2}]
Bacanora Lithium MKT CAP £29.25 MILLION
2)CINOVEC LITHIUM,CZECH REPUBLIC -REM 19.2% stake , MKT CAP £24.93MILLION
3)HASTINGS TECHNOLOGY METALS [ASX] - Yangibana Rare Earth, Australia [30% JV {2}]
A20c, MKT CAP A$155.6 MILLION
4)REM GREENLAND 100%
Nearby Greenland Minerals [ASX:GGG], Mkt Cap A$56.63 MILLION - World Class Kvanjefeld Rare Earth.
5)MACARTHUR MINERALS [CANADA, Iron Ore] - 10.1% stake
Mkt Cap C$26.64m @.09c
6)AUROCH [Australia] 6.7% stake - MKT CAP A$6.97 MILLION
Nearby Lake Torrens, Australia JV [Aeris AIS (70%) MKT CAP A$76.9 MILLION & Argonaut [ARE] MKT CAP A$26.4MILLION.
7)PICASSO LITHIUM, W.AUSTRALIA [new asset]
Nearby High Profile Bald Hill, Alliance Minerals [ASX:A40], MKT CAP A$228.4 MILLION @A17.5C
8)LITHFIELD, NT, AUSTRALIA [new asset] - Lithium
Near Finnish Project, Core [ASXK:CXO] A$37.5 MILLION @A5.4c
9)ALCOOTA, NT, AUSTRALIA [new asset] - Lithium
10)SAN LUIS, ARGENTINE - Lithium
etc
News
Sat, 30 Mar 2019
Note: The details are in the title at this forum under REM 10 Projects etc [recent posts]
Please check as there can be typo and copying errors.
DYOR.
Eyes will be watching Aeris Resouces on ASX:AIS: A16c, Mkt Cap A$76.91MILLION.
Status of Lake Torrens JV, South Australia: Awaiting assays for Hole TD7 -drilled to 858m.
See 18 Mar 2019 Announcement -Torrens is 40km NE of the spectacular Oak DAm copper discovery announced by BHP in Nov 2018. There are 28 district target zones within the "BROADER TORREN*S ANOMALY."
Note: Aeries is in joint venture with Argonaut Resources [ASX: ARE] on the Lake Torrens copper project, South Australia. ARGONAUT share price 1.7c, MKT CAP A$26.42 MILLION.
Source: Hotcopper - https://hotcopper.com.au/ais/discussion/
Joint Venture on Lake Torrents, S.Australia : AERIS Resources 70% & Argonaut 30%.
Comment: So only 1 drill hole completed on TD7 with assays PENDING and their mkt cap*s.
News
Sat 30 Mar 2019
"20.4% copper assay for Auroch in South Australia."-The West Australian, 7.2.19
"..Mineralised corridor that extends at least over 1 kilometre long. Auroch*s ARDEN is North of their East Torrent, SA licence."
https://twitter.com/LONDONAIMCAP/status/1111956440388943874
News,
Sat 30 Mar 2019
DYOR. Please check as copying from notes. [2 articles dated today under this thread]
"Auroch muscles into upmarket address."-The West Australia
"Nailed 1600sqkm best mineral address. BHP*s Mind Blowing drill intersection WEST of Auroch - Elephant Country surrounded by several Tier 1 Olympic Dam & Carrapeteena, under construction. Auroch CEO: Our ELA*s are situated on a LARGE GRAVITY ANOMALY along TREND from Torrens JV projects, which recently defined drill targets over an area LARGER than Olympic Dam."
"Auroch*s Torrent lies in the heart of Eastern Gawler Craton, SA, a globally recognised IOCG copper gold province.
BHP recently announced Mind-Blowing drill intersections West of Auroch*s new ground."
"BHP*s recent drilling programme...intersected HIGH grade copper mineralisation up to 6% copper over 180m [down hole intersection]. According to management, project specifically covers the Torrens * IOCG Hinge Zone*
https://twitter.com/LONDONAIMCAP/status/1111949795504082944
Torrens JV-Aris Resources. The article in this thread from The West Australian mentioned Aris Resources drilling next to Auroch*s Torrens East.
"ARIS RESOURCES SPINS DRILL AT POSSIBLE SLEEPING GIANT PORPHYRY SYSTEM."- Proactive Investors,Austalia, 22 Jan 2019.
Quote:
"The heli-portable drilling rig will drill 8-10 holes to depths of 800-1500 metres. Drilling is testing an ANOMALY L A R G E R than the world renowned Olympic Dam."
https://www.proactiveinvestors.com.au/companies/news213004/aeris-resources-spins-drill-at-possible-sleeping-giant-porphyry-system-213004.html 22 Jan 2019
DYOR. Please check.
News,
Sat, 30 Mar 2019
"Auroch finds numerous targets for copper/gold in SA."- The West Australian, 14.3.19
See map: Torrents East and how close it is to Carrapateena & Oak Dam West [BHP], both World Class discoveries.
See Oak Dam drill results denoted in the map.
Quote:
"BHP*s colossal Olympic Dam and Oz Mineral*s impressive Carrapateena deposit." [Olympic Dam is close to Oak Dam, also BHP]
"Drilling of the Torrens gravity ANOMALY by WMC in the late 1970*s & the Torrens JV in 2007-08, CONFIRMED the presence of a MAJOR IOCG mineralised system several hundred metres below the surface and blanketed by a sedimentary cover."
"Whilst it is early days for the co at TORREN*S EAST, THE POTENTIAL PRIZE IS A COMPANY MAKER and based on that a l o n e , it could not find itself at a BETTER ADDRESS to find a WORLD CLASS DEPOSIT, in this GLOBALLY RECOGNISED IOCG copper gold p r o v i n c e."
Note:
From the map, Lake Torrens JV [AIS 70% ARE 30%, drilling commenced 22.1.19] is next to Torrens East [Auroch 100%]. Two different co*s.
Comment:
Its nearology again, Torrens East near Oak Dam and Carrapeteena. Arden [Auroch] is just below Carrapeteena although not mentioned in this article [Arden was mentioned by Alan Green as high grade copper etc in his recent interview].
In the post earlier on REM: KDNC*s 10 projects, Arden was mentioned and nearology to the world class Oak Dam & Carapeteena.
https://thewest.com.au/business/public-companies/auroch-finds-numerous-targets-for-coppergold-in-sa-ng-b881135999z
News,
Sat, 30 Mar 2019
DYOR. Please check. Please read the full article for details.