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“Can't imagine it will be reported in the June final results”
I agree, not in the reported numbers but surely it would be mentioned under post balance sheets events? Mind you, as I said, it also warrants an RNS before that anyway in my view if they started to generate any revenue.
They were porting 7 months ago. Are you saying back in Sep 2023 they knew the Methods worked on the live blockchain? If so, why are they just testing it now?
Why would they be porting if it didn’t work?
Why reverse engineer the Chinese chips if method B doesn’t work?
'So do you think they would go through all this effort to get porting on to Chinese rigs if the methods don’t work'
They confirmed back in 20 Sep 2023 that porting was underway on Chinese rigs:
'the Company can start porting on the equipment made by the largest mining rig manufacturer in that region'
If this means that they knew back then that Method B worked why is FG still holding off confirming that it works some 7 months later?
'I can’t see what they can prove'
Quite, it's not as simple as FG makes out with his one vs one rig analogy. As far as I'm aware the hash rate is not increased so it can't be that. Who knows, we don't have enough info from QBT to know what they would consider proof that the Methods work
So do you think they would go through all this effort to get porting on to Chinese rigs if the methods don’t work?
They been dipping in and out of these mining pools etc for a good time now.
But how does that work without generating revenue? What are they testing? The only true test will be when they actually try to mine with their software otherwise how can they validate the 2.6x claim?
Because they are testing on the mining pools......live testing yes, but testing....
Here they are, must have gone away for the bank holiday weekend and now back to work trolling QBT, like we don’t know all you trolls have one router 🤡
Once again the forum is deluged with teams of individuals engaged in false fearmongering.
* acoreceived should read actually received in earlier post
Your downfall (TOOTHEMOON) is your obvious agenda to devalue the company with false and exaggerated scepticism.
I can’t see what they can prove though unless they are mining on hundreds of rigs - which QBT don’t have as far as I know?
'allowed to mine by third parties'
Can't see any reason why a third party would be involved. The whole purpose of a pool is you connect your rig to it and away you go, ideal for QBT testing their Methods anonymously.
@TOTHEMOONBITCOIN
Agree with you that by live mining in pools QBT will be generating revenue. We have no details on the scale of the mining but QBT will get rewarded for any contribution to the pools, regardless of how Method B is performing. Can't imagine it will be reported in the June final results though unless we were live mining in December 2023, which may be possible as the CEO indicated in January 2024 that they were gathering live results at that point.
TTMBTC - yes, I think it was a refreshingly balanced post which is always good to see.
On the revenue point it is generally recognised when it is earned - not when payment is acoreceived which could be much later or (like with airlines and advanced ticket sales) much earlier.
So any earnings should be recognised immediately when each BTC is mined (obviously a share of it if part of a pool).
Like you I can’t see how live testing can be carried out unless they are mining for real as part of that test. I also agree that any revenue generated should lead to an RNS.
Someone with better technical understanding might be able to suggest how live testing can prove a method works whilst still not mining but I haven’t seen a good answer to this when this has been asked before - though what Woody says could make sense - namely they are allowed to mine by third parties but in return those parties would retain call the income as the price of that cooperation?
Playing the man and not the ball Mikedj ? Very interesting you feel my post was promoting bearish sentiment when I actually pointed out both bullish and bearish possibilities. An answer to the question I posed would be far more beneficial to the discussion than attempting to interpret my intentions based on the use of capital letters , I guess my request for sensible replies was my downfall.
TOTHEMOONBITCOIN I believe this is called - IRONY
'the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite'
Simplified - creating a username that implies bullish sentiment, and spending all your time creating doubt and fear to promote bearish sentiment.
CAPITALISINGONFEAR ? Maybe
I don’t think Qbt have any agreement or are expecting any remuneration from the 2 mining pools allowing Qbt to test on their rigs, I may be wrong but this is my belief until i see an RNA stating different.
Thanks for the reply Notready 1 , Why don’t you think there won’t be revenue from BTC mining yet ?
I believe FG first stated live testing was taking place late in 2023 or possibly early in 2024 , mining pools settle accounts in most cases monthly but in some cases weekly, so there should be revenue generated in the reporting period?
I’m genuinely interested why you don’t think any revenue will be shown, in more traditional industries I understand there maybe lags in payments which would take revenue outside the reporting period but bitcoin mining pools settle payments either in $ or Bitcoin on a weekly or monthly basis.
There won't be any revenue in the accounts yet.
With results due from QBT at the end of June this should once and for all stop all the speculation.
FG has declared QBT are live testing thus backing himself into a corner imo .
The bull case will be at very least be partially proven correct if FG announces revenue from btc mining ( live testing can surly only mean actually mining on the network) , if they are mining there must be revenue no matter how small .
Should QBT not provide a revenue update from Mining you’d have to say it adds weight to the bear case .
Even if QBT’s tech has been used by a third party there must be data to update the market .
I’m happy for sensible posters to point out any other possibilities but given any revenue earned is a significant change in financial circumstances for QBT, and therefore is required by market rules to update the market I’m struggling to see how the can is kicked further down the street.
Bitcoin got a little ahead of its self pre halving, my own work suggested $53k was around the correct price @the halving.
It’s quite interesting to see Bitcoin corrected back to $57k which is ball park my halving estimate, if my figures are correct bitcoin should take off again 18th-21st May , it’s very possible we’ll see another pullback before then as bitcoin seems to like suckering in folk and shaking them out before really taking off .
I will put my neck on the line and say the way the wider market is currently setting up I’m expecting a melt up in the next 3-6months before a very very big sell off (60%ish ) I don’t expect Bitcoin or gold to be immune from this crash as folk will be desperate to liquidate all assets and will probably use the USD as a safe haven, this could lead to the dollar milkshake theory playing out which could see the $ back to around $1.40 . In short I think this bitcoin cycle will be short and sweet, probably undershooting what the majority of influencer are suggesting. My guess is the US presidential election will be the catalyst , a Trump victory would probably add extra fuel to the rocket short term while if Biden gets re-elected it could signal the top , whoever wins I don’t think it’ll be amicable which is another factor to add to any calculations.
As things stand $107k-$145k with the peak no later than November 2024 , I’m very open to revising these estimates if something significant happens but so far things are playing out pretty much on track .
GLA
I hope they do not see your comments and decide to give us the benefit of their undoubted wisdom. God knows we have had enough of that over the past weeks and months.
This guy must have taken his nine aliases on holiday with him. Note they all disappeared at once. Crazy. Definitely posting under instructions from someone and how lovely not to have them spamming the board
Long may it continue