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As I said, wind your neck in!
Trip you absolute feckwitt did I say your name??
This is the problem with you idiots. Paranoid androids on auto pilot. If it doesn’t say Avacta you start losing your shiit and create noise where there isn’t any.
This is an ODX bb, we don’t give a feck what happens on Avacta’s bb.
Safy, if that is aimed at myself for my last post, I think that you are getting a bit paranoid? Just because I am a more frequent poster over on AVCT, it doesn’t mean that I have no interest here. FYI I was a holder here many months ago and I am considering dipping my toe back in again. At no point did I mention AVCT in my post here, at no point did I suggest that AVCT was superior and in fact I made a certain point of that new tests were being developed all the time and therefore we cannot predict the future. So wind your neck in you jumped up feckin pr*ck!
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-company-behind-15-minute-antigen-test-says-its-a-game-changer-12078934
Remember surescreen also have the 15min test coming out... trying to produce 1mill+ a week.
Ok I’m going to put this matter to bed hopefully once and for all.
Mologic have designed their test to sell for £1, yes read that again, and again, and again, I’ll write it again, £1. ODX will sell that test under their own brand for more than £1. WHO procured antigen LFT’s for £3.90p recently. There is money to be made but on big volume.
Nobody knows whether Avacta have a test let alone know when they will CE mark it. If there is a test someone show me evidence of their test being validated in a live setting.
UK government will get into bed with ANY company that delivers a test. It’s 100% not solely Avacta, just look at the tests they have procured to date... simple question are they Avacta’s? Yes or no. Avacta is a small time company who are producing a covid test. They do not have ANY INFLUENCE on the government. Boris knows Mologic, Mologic is a pioneer in LFT tech, Mologic are recognised the world over for their work.
And I hate to say this but why the feck does EVERY FECKING ANTIGEN LFT IN THE WHOLE WORLD HAVE TO BELONG TO AVACTA? Why can’t these people on their bb accept that there are other companies that are more skilled than them in LFT development and could/should/would be ahead of them.
It’s a joke honestly, Boris says LFT and automatically AVCT assume it’s them, ODX day Mologic LFT and somehow still Avacta think Mologic means Avacta.
Mologic say £1, and somehow AVCT think their test would be a better commercial opportunity for ODX.
Give it a rest. I’m sick of this drivel that we get from Avacta on this bb.
MB, true to an extent but it also depends on numerous other factors such as demand for your own product in comparison to the other (which none of us can predict for the future with new tests being developed all the time)? Additionally whether one product is considered superior, can therefore command a higher price and possibly an enhanced manufacturing fee? In reverse to what you have stated, if a company can use its available production to make £2.50 per unit making someone else's test whilst it can only make £2.00 per unit making their own, you don't have to be Alan Sugar to know which one they will be making. As stated though, none of us know at this moment in time until formal figures are released?
Jaylarc then you must understand the difference in the commercials between making a visitetc branded test and making a test for someone else. It’s simple business and simple maths. You have 1m capacity, do you make 1m tests that make you £2 per test or do you make 1m tests that make you £1 per test?
After the presentation we had today it’s ridiculous to see comments of avacta excitement over Mologic’s antigen test moving forward saying that in fact it must be theirs despite the fact the company have just been discussing the process in the presentation! Sorry for being the bad guy and calling them out.
MW it was me called you out and I wasn't reveling in the demise of the SP here.
I was reveling in the thought of odx manufacturing for avacta after you betting all your ODX shares that they will never manufacture for avacta.
I couldn't care less who odx manufacture for as long as they do, I hold here and imo wisely topped up 10k late afternoon.
It is your incessant, continual attempts at degrading/deramping AVACTA , they have no test, never will have a commercial test etc etc etc, just look at your own posting history ffs.
You have been at it for months, its obvious you are not and probably wont invest there so please STFA from there.
Thank you
Sjpw no I wouldn’t say aggressive. I’m happy to have a debate on either stock I’ll talk about either for as much time as anyone wants and I’ll keep it respectful for as long as others return the same. I don’t believe these bbs are cults for those that only follow the most positive opinion. I’ll stick up for odx because that’s what the facts support in my opinion. Likewise I think my comments over there are not unjust (most of the time). Generally on this bb any negative view is combatted with a strong positive case with evidence and facts, over there it is simply met with abuse or “Sir Al” says this so were all good. Alternate views have their place on these bbs and They have always made me dig deeper into my research. I’d there’s a negative view I can’t respond to I look into it. If there’s something I havnt considered I’ll reassess my risk. I’ve learnt my lessons over the years which is why before odx I gave up posting on these bbs for a long time. Odx is the first time in a long time where I feel like getting involved.
@Kainos - agreed.
@MB - hope I haven't come across too aggressive towards you. We're all in this together, both fighting the virus & hoping to do well with our investments
sjpw
MB has a view as we all do - he is just coming across a bit frustrated at the moment I think - so a little unbalanced.
We all get like that under pressure - its human nature.
Testing is the way out of this mess.
Lets all come together and beat this.
GLA all Covid test investors - Lets get UK "Back To Work" :)
It’s the Mologic antigen test currently under evaluation at Heathrow, why did Colin erm and ah and not clearly state it’s been tested at Liverpool school of tropical medicine, Nottingham university and Heathrow airport the largest airport in the Uk. I mean it’s clear to see if Mologic test is chosen by Heathrow as the test of choice to allow mass flights to happen other airports will follow and Mologic lateral flow antigen test will become the global gold standard test to save the airline and travel industries combined.
SJPW: Agreed. Why all the bad blood! Its just petty and absolutely pointless.. I am in both and happy about that.
Everyone?
That's not my memory, was just a few.
A few were honestly in sympathy with ODX as AVACT had been in the same place recently.
But don't you see, if you do it, others will respond?
I have to agree with you however, if you were called out by name, that wasn't good.
I am an investor in both ODX & Avacta
Whilst our ODX presentation was being broadcast there was a technical webinar via David Wilson of Avacta.
He made an interesting point regarding ‘ sovereign tests ‘
It does appear the Government have Avacta as the sovereign test for Antigen to compliment the RTC Antibody test - maybe wrong but it’s pointing in that direction, strange comment for him to make.?
Personally I think ODX will make the same gross revenue off either and Colin has suggested there is more profit from the Antigen test - other tests.
https://twitter.com/buy_buy_bye/status/1321519187014111233?s=20
Sjpw- not true everyone on AVCT board was taking great pleasure in odx having a bad day. Someone even called me out by name When bragging about it.
sjpw
Agree - its a shame
GL with your investments
I dont really care for he said she saod - blame game - - dont care who started it - we are not in the playground at school - lets - leave it alone and be a bit ADULT. We are all here to make money - GLA and i mean ALL
@Merchantbanker:
"Sorry im not the main instigator, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO KEEP MY COMMENTS OF EACH STOCK SPECIFIC TO EACH STOCK, but if others aren't then i will have my say."
"Sorry but the idea of producing tests for Avacta makes very poor commercial sense. When capacity is a limiting factor, why would you produce someone else's tests at SAY (NOT A FACT) 30% margin when you can produce your own branded product at 60%? (GUESS, AGAIN) Sorry but linking ODX manufacturing capacity Avacta's test doesn't add up commercially (GUESS, AGAIN). Especially when there is zero evidence that their test will ever reach commercialisation (KNOCKING AVACTA AGAIN, LOADED PHRASE, NO FACTS ("zero evidence")). If anyone that watched today's presentation thinks that Avacta is the key to our success you need to give up investing (KNOCKING AVACTA AGAIN)."
So you are not the main instigator? but you want the last word, and to continue it. I despair.......
Fyi, all posters on both boards were happy this morning, no bad blood, until @MB went onto the AVCT board and provoked them for no reason?
Mr B - i see no problem with MBs communication - but maybe i missed it lol - Lets all just play a bit more nicely - or we'll all be going on each others chats talking **** - not needed - we all want to make money and i doubt we have that much effect on the price - we are just here to help each other
Sorry im not the main instigator, i am more than happy to keep my comments on both stocks specific to each stock, but if others aren't then i will have my say.
Sorry but the idea of producing tests for Avacta makes very poor commercial sense. When capacity is a limiting factor, why would you produce someone else's tests at say 30% margin when you can produce your own branded product at 60%? Sorry but linking ODX manufacturing capacity Avacta's test doesn't add up commercially. Especially when there is zero evidence that their test will ever reach commercialisation. If anyone that watched today's presentation thinks that Avacta is the key to our success you need to give up investing.
Mr B - you think this is bad, check out the bloodbath that is CINE; its draining.
Too many positives going on here for derampers. Good things come to those who wait
GLA
“Its sad really how much childishness there is on these sites between supporters of competing companies - like our conversations and debates have much effect - chill - relax - im sure theres plenty to go round - and if you are not invested in ODX and you cant play nice - go back to AVCT chat - thanks”
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Perhaps the main instigator of all the above MerchantBanker will take note.
I think we are stating the facts as reported in the presentation - Field tests progressing well - Mologic will CE mark and as its suggested we would hopefully commence tech transfer in 4 weeks - i guess that means Mologic CE mark between now and then. Once we tech transfer we CE mark and Colin suggested by Chirstmas or early Jan at latest - but he was targeting before Christmas - those are the facts im stating
Actually, not deramping and I'm invested here (quite a lot for me and for a long time - hurt a bit today but it will come back up).
Just like facts & honesty.