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EUA on top gainers list.
Once the was is over the share price will significantly move upwards. Hold on to your golden tickets.
Yes we can review at the end of the month.
This military channel may help your understanding of the position of both the Russian and Ukrainian forces:
https://youtu.be/7r--HGoEliY
Open yer curtains Knob Ed’s. It’s lovely outside!
> Please do not waste all our time by posting your opinions as facts.
Good luck finding anything to read anything on this board apart from Mac's copy and paste posts then, lol. I'll post what and what I like, cheers!
Hi Mizman, I'm glad you replied because you've touched upon the one big thing I realised that didn't. The Donbas military gains - a war-winning long term campaign for the Russians, or the result of clever delaying tactics from Ukraine to allow them to bring their long-term strategy to bear? You suggest the entire front is collapsing, but I don't see much evidence of that. However I do see evidence of fairly steady, slow Russian gains while the Ukrainians resist heavily. Certainly the traditional definition of a conventional military collapse hasn't occurred. Else the Russians would have made far greater gains. Perhaps that has been more due to Russian logistical issues rather than Ukrainian resilience, but whatever the cause, I think the question of whether Donbas progress is going to be a war winner is still to be answered. I wouldn't rule out a Russian win through attrition. It's in the balance at this time IMHO.
"Kharkiv offensive" - I always saw that as disinformation. I wasn't suprised to see nothing much happen and I'm not sure that's too meaningful in the long term. For Ukraine's military it's always been a case of the longer this goes on, the better (putting aside civilian tragedies) so talk of early counter-offensives before NATO weapons came through in large quantities was always suspect to me.
> End of the month will prove it to all
It's a date. Let's try to talk again then and see what has happened.
Ricardo2019
Please do not waste all our time by posting your opinions as facts.
Mizman as I am not an aficionado in tactics of war I wont even start to question the merits of both sides in the argument BUT to say Russia is winning is a bit stupid.
Russia are 6 months into a invasion for which they thought would take a few days with ALL their objectives presently failing again and far play to the Ukrainians for that.
Even if Russia take the Donbass or whatever do you really think the war will end ?? You expect the Ukrainian's to just roll over and let them have the area ???
Aspen, If you aren't willing to debate in good faith please don't waste my time by asking questions.
Mizman, plus it looks like the West are beginning to prep the public for throwing Elensky under the bus.
Amnesty International wrote a damming article and even Sky news is allowing its news anchors to highlight his shortfalls.
It's only a matter of time. There are too many think pointing towards Q3 this year for it to be a coincidence. Hence why I also think the BOD are looking to release news in the latter part of the year
Ricardo,
Two simple facts point towards Russia's winning of the war.
* Military gains in Donbas, with the entire front collapsing.
* The highly touted Kharkiv offensive meant to reverse Russian conquest, failing to materialize.
End of the month will prove it to all and Ukraine will need to seriously push for peace, otherwise there is no stopping Russia from taking all of Ukraine.
noticed how the news coverage has been less and less over the last few weeks, used to be wall to wall coverage of everything now dont really here anything for days.
Ricardo2019
With due respect, those are just your opinions, you do not know any more than the rest of us.
ATB
Aspen
> You say the war has a long way to run yet, please provide the evidence to support that statement.
I'd love to debate this. Military matters are right up my street. There is so much to talk about and I don't have time for 'War and Peace' right now so I'll try to summarise my view as such and hopefully I can come back with more later.
Look at the:
a) objectives of both sides - neither side has objectives that are easy to achieve in the short term.
b) resources of both sides - neither has enough resources to force a decisive result. Russia is scraping the manpower battle.
c) military progress of both sides - neither is currently making much in the way of progress towards achieving their objectives. Ukraine struggles to generate enough combat power to push the Russians back substantially (see operational maps of the Kherson area for details). The Russians are resorting to combing prisons for manpower and creating new battle groups from novices (admittedly Ukraine are training new troops too but their training is NATO standard, which is far superior). The Russians have had to go global tech like drones, and can throw bodies and artillery at the frontline while Ukraine tries to level the playing field with superior technology and tactics. These efforts are broadly cancelling each other out.
d) diplomacy - some minor progress on exports that benefit Russia more than Ukraine. No progress on the big issues.
e) Economic aspect - Ukraine is getting hammered but has Western funding to keep it going. Russia is getting hammered but put a large war chest aside prior to the conflict. They can keep going for a while yet.
f) Government - neither side looks like changing their ruler, or policies. No coup to get rid of Putin. He has broad support it seems in Russia. Zelensky stable in power with a mandate to defend Ukraine.
I look at these factors as they stand right now, and there's nothing in any of them that makes me think there could be a quick resolution coming from any quarter. Not even a ceasefire.
I have to go now for a meeting, but let me know if I've missed any major factors (I probably have). And if you wish to pick anything out for debate then I look forward to discussing with you.
> demilitarization of the West
They haven't stated that AFAIK. do you have a source? And if that was an objective then they are failing miserably. Even Germany is upping defence spending. The US defence industry is having a field day. Russia has shown the West why they can't demilitarise. Even Scandanavia agrees.
Ricardo2019
You say the war has a long way to run yet, please provide the evidence to support that statement.
ATB
Aspen
Russia will revert back to a Soviet style state, sanctions will bite hard, they will have to sell their oil cheap which they are already doing, recession is coming reducing demand further for oil further along with clean ener, putin won't last forever....they will want a way out
> Russia also demilitarizing them,
What does that even mean? Ukraine's combat power is only increasing as Russia is weakening. That is supported by evidence from both sides.
The main point relating to EUA here is that the war has a long way to run yet.
ps I don't like to admit it but those are the facts as I see them
cwebb07, you have your opinion and I have mine, R 's objectives are still ongoing and gaining and in addition demilitarization of the West
Russia has already lost they failed in their objective
There will have to be a compromise and the world will keep turning
Source please, Icarus69?
imo Ukraine has already lost and the increase of munitions being sent from the West suggests to me that nato also failing, ie Russia also demilitarizing them, but believe what you want
The west will keep on propping Ukraine up as long as the people in power have money to lauder. A large proportion of the weapons being sent to them aren't even making it to the troops, but getting sold on the black market.
Based on the comments today Zelensky is using the backing of the US and the EU to win back Crimea. I was hoping for a swift conclusion but this seems far from over.
The question will be how long the west keep propping up Ukraine