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As you post here spikey and mock the long term holders just because they invested and kept their faith I will tell you to shut up.
You can filter me. It’s free and fine by me.
04:33, not down to you where or whether i post, phoenix.
if you don’t like seeing posts from me, then why not just lse’s filter function? - it’s easy, free, & fine by me.
1984, thanks for the reasoned response. Seems to be what I was suggesting would be the case if it was done sequentially. Platforms first for the nominees, then paper, then publish the agent with the portal details.
Wake me up when anyone has confirmation of step 1 being under way. I’ll happily keep quiet until after 5 weeks from 13/11..
But i haven't contacted them in years
Yep
Since i contacted HL a couple of weeks ago i am now getting emails from them at least twice a day about investing any spare money and what to do with your Pension , previously i would only hear 2-3 times a year unless there were actual secure messages in my portal ............................. anyone else having same experience ?
What’s wrong with you spikey? Don’t have a daytime job? If you had enough worth you would be buying shares and talking about them rather than coming here for a cheap thrill writing tens of thousands of posts.
Abusing the ceo who has at least delivered in the past and continues to do still.
Why not just shut up?
Frankly, if the software for the ‘portal’ is being done by the folks who did the onitor then it’s not gonna go well.
? bets on the ‘agent’ just being amit in a wig using a poundland darth vader voice-changer?
Imagine there are 2000 different shareholders
1500 still on brokers
500 on paper
3 people have moved house
Can you see how trivial this is to work through for an “agent”? The anomalies whilst More labour intensive
Are fewer by nature
Let’s say I was the agent and i wanted maximum buck for minimum work
First I’d collate all platformed shares and batch them by provider
Then I’d collate all paper shares with last known address. I’d consolidate by shares in issue and if it’s good to go I’d then proceed to
1. Contact broker platforms to issue corporate events
2. Contact paper holders by last known details
I’d then thirdly open the portal for recipients of 2 and those who haven’t been contacted yet to stake their claims using their precious address details
This is in the update under the sentence containing “timely manner”
You will have plenty of time before a bank transfer to prove who you are where you were and where you are now
This is bloody basic
I don’t need to Google what a portal is thank you. Perhaps I do need to ask ChatGPT how to access the agent portal if details of the agent are secret to avoid them being overwhelmed by ‘village idiots’ and they cannot proactively contact the shareholder as Cloudtag apparently did not update the register when furnished with updated address details.
Exactly in the same position as you ,
Emailed Ctag so many times no reply
That information is out there already. The agent has a portal
Google what a portal is if you don’t know
More than just address change, there will be name change and potentially death of shareholders which you would expect a bona fide company to keep on top of when contacted via their published contact details. And still not answering at what point paper holders get the opportunity to contact the agents as the agents cannot contact them with an old address.
Anyway, time will tell, delivery trumps everything.
I’m not talking a game, I’m just pointing out how irrational it is to declare something a con because somebody has changed their address.
It is a business flow that happens in nearly every bit of software in the world that deals with people and their addresses.
It is nothing new that somebody moves house.
I don’t see it as a five week task. It’s not like there are a million investors all on certificates. They will batch it all up, prepare it and rattle through it
You talk a good game 1984, any idea why Amit didn’t engage agents well before now to get the thing oven ready as it has been supposedly nailed on for 6 months? It will be a tall order to complete payments for all in the stated time scale of 4 to 5 weeks from 13/11 if it is sequential with the nominee holders on the platforms sorted first and then the paper holders contacted. Any timescale for how this will play out if the object is to avoid the agents being contacted unnecessarily by those with nominee holdings before agent details get into the public domain by any direct contact with paper holders. And then there is the possibility the agent details may get revealed by a broker employee speaking out of turn. If you are right it would have been far better for Amit to state that nominees will be sorted out first and then the process move to paper holders. Even something like the brokers accepting cash from Cloudtag will presumably have regulatory and compliance issues to check out due to the company status and prevailing legislation, it’s not exactly like getting the half yearly dividend lump sum from LLOY to dish out..
I would say there is a blindingly obvious reason for that. They’d have a Star Wars bar full of idiots ringing them day and night.
Let’s just say if your old address details were ok the register, and the portal once available allowed you to “log in” with your old details and fill in your name and address and declare your number of shares then change your address data, would that not be an example of a simple process that would solve that problem?
Surely by contacting via platforms first they delay the wave of village idiots contacting them and thus reduce their work?
You would think so @1984 but without letting us know who the distribution agent is, the change of contact details process is rather hard to understand?
Looks like Amit has arranged for the agent to write out to shareholders at their old address with the process for supplying the new one..
So purely because your tiny little brain can’t compute that an agency used to distribute money to shareholders must surely have a process for change of address, you think it must therefore be a con?
The level of intelligence on this forum is starting to help me realise why our country is going downhill so rapidly
Same position for me, was HSBC ISA now I’m computershare certificates with old address. Tried and failed to update.
Yep and this leads me to firmly believe this is all complete b o l l o c k s and a f r a w d ( sick).
Lock him up
I’m in exactly the same position @africanskies. Shares originally held in bestinvest but now have the computershare certificate.
The previous message by Africanskies asking for help as the company has discontinued professional management of the shareholders, the company itself obviously can’t be r5ed to manage its own register and the agents are top secret shows this company is far from normal. If it were there would be nothing to see for ex holders who would indeed move on as they do with other former investments.
Every one has to admit now this is dead no money coming back to us