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@Hexam - you're no doubt making the resident thin-skinned position poster, squirm with your light put-down posts. Lol. :-)
Anyway, onwards and upwards in due course!!
Ok look forward to it ,👍🏼
Have a great Easter likewise.
🐣
Hi DARKBLUE
I will reveal close to the end of my trial period which company is and how to get around in obtaining
a free two week trial with just a little effort and some good imaginative thinking to pull it off.
If I disclose the actual subscription cost now, it would be easily worked out which company is and
I could have my lse account put into jeopardy. Please be patient and nearer the time I will make sure
that you'll be the first to know when I call out your name here in this bb for the revelation of the Company
behind the provision of companies security ownership and much much more. Its jam packed with institutional
investors grade data of all kinds. Have a good Easter holiday and to everyone else too.
Just out of interest how much would the subscription be after free trial period?
Thanks
DB
Hi Trisor,
Thanks for taking the time to look through all the data and not just the top five major capita security ownership holders.
Beware that the website smallpdf does't hold them up for more than 1 day before the links expire. But I can always re-upload the files if kindly requested. Also, please do your own assessment of the data as I extract it as given by the terminal. So. it's best to cross-check together to make sure adding and reducing institutional investors date entries are matching up.
This pdf was created by the terminal by adding every single major and minor holder together using the US date format too.
What is important that we remember that all data in regarding buying and selling activities are helpful because some of those minor holder have indeed just under the 3% TR-1 threshold and so anything below that bought or sold is very interesting to know and not discarded as some have said today as not to be concerned.
FULL LIST OF OWNERS HOLDING CAPITA SECURITY seen as of 28th March-2024
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=2ee79a4b4d88622ecf680200adc3b572&t=share-document
@NoFear-it seems from your 2 page link that most funds have been selling recently but a couple have come in . So in my opinion, unless I have misread the data, the drop since August 23 has had a lot to do with the II's
How the hell has the company allowed shareholders to be so utterly disregarded in this way?
If anyone missed it, this is one the top 25 institutional holders that had recently reduced I guess from the date entries just before the 6th March 2024 FY results were out.
Norges Bank Investment Management (F5137458) - Historical Position in Capita plc
So, please don't misread it as a UK date format entry. Convert it from USA to UK date format
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=beab2f21b345a57152fa8fa6ae1ae999&t=share-document
If anyone missed it, this is one the top 25 institutional holders that had recently reduced I guess from the date entries
just before the 6th March 2024 FY results were out.
Fil Investment Advisors (Uk) Ltd. (F5031373) - Historical Position in Capita plc
I've uploaded the pdf file here and its 9 pages long.
It runs From the 28/04/2000 as 28th April 2000 to the 26/03/2024 as 26th March 2024.
Their total investment position in Capita is averaging at 27p per share with 2.67% held
with a total of 45,475,000 cpi shares with a market value at approx. £6millions.
Remember that the pdf files and the data that I upload here for your benefit is reported with
American data set format entries.
So, please don't misread it as a UK date format entry. Convert it from USA to UK date format
Please download it asap as my shared links expire on a daily basis from posting here.
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=88c81be02ed912dc96fc8c490f65f07a&t=share-document
Remember that the data entries are in the US style format.
Please convert and interpret to UK date settings format.
Click here below to view it and download it for safe keeping
Hi Trisor,
I just downloaded a pdf file off the Capita Ownership Security terminal and obviously have removed any logos.
Ownership Updates: CAPITA PLC ORD (B23K0M2) for 27-Mar-2024 and its 2 pages long.
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=cc7681f4d9d338c702786b272c3a1085&t=share-document
Trisor - I think the percentage is 3% before they have to start declaring. Even for these it is not always real ii money. Anything below 3% to me is not really worth knowing about, certainly if it is not ii money or that of a single PI - unless it's an insider of course but these have to declare any transaction anyway.
@ Hexam -yes good point but I believe only shareholders over a certain percentage (cant recall teh threshold) have to TR-1 so there is some (albeit) limited value
Trisor - Yes, but we know that already. We have had no notifications of any significant reductions of major holdings. Also, as I said, most of the data provided is really PI money anyway.
Tend to agree - the likes of St James Income fund investing in CPI just makes my decision not to use managed funds so much easier to make - the presence of so many funds who are not even close to their target market is sad to see but guess its loss in the roundings if your fund is measured in the billions
@Hexam -isn't the underlying point that II's are not stampeding towards the door , which accordingly is of comfort ?
Kudos to you for getting all this data but you haven't explained WHY it is useful. To me it doesn't pass the 'So what?' test. I won't say it is run-of-the-mill data because it clearly isn't, but I don't see how it is helpful at all to me or anybody else in making a decision about investing in CPI. As I said though, happy to be educated by you, or anybody else who finds it helpful in this respect.
Also, again, a lot of that top 20 represents PI money NOT institutional money anyway e.g. HL and Fidelity.
Oh well Hexam.
It's never too late to learn from what others have to offer. I for a fact I'm better prepared than you that perhaps are happy to be doing with the dribble of informations as it comes bit by bit.
The fact that you see little value on what some of the top 20 major holders have been up as of lately clearly shows kind of investor you are. You rather not know and that's why other here have found it helpful. And don't go saying it's just run of the mill data because I can assure you that isn't. But why bother trying to save everyone else's skin. I better look after mine first than everyone else for last.
I don't care what institutions hold (other than perhaps what we already get from the major holding notifications anyway).
In particular I don't see the benefit of knowing what the likes of Fidelity, HL etc. have been investing, and when, as all this represents is just the aggregation of what you, I and other PIs are investing on their platforms but happy to be educated if you can identify a particular purpose or use.
Schroders and a few others are different but as I say, we get an RNS anyway for any movements in these.
Reams of data is one thing. Useful information is another.
Hexam
if you've got better than what I'm offering, then fire it off please. I promise not to dismiss it as the gospel truth.
If any punters like yourself think they can add any supporting and helpful data for the longs that are still none
the wiser about Capita major shareholder latest state of affairs, please I beg you to kindly find time in your busy
life to upload it for everyone benefit, otherwise please retrieve back in your deep manhole.
"So, if you see anything that I post, take it as the gospel truth and don't knock it or dismiss it as useless."
Actually if it's all the same to you I'll knock it and dismiss it as useless. As for gospel truth...
Good old go4cpi and land yourself in the deepend never did work out for you when I was always along with AimMaster2018 trying to make you see sense.
But need to too worry yourselves,
Good old no nonsense NoFear will try their best to dig you and everyone out of that hole currently stuck in 'without' insofar a way out.
Patience Patience is the word to remember as every trading day that passes repeats with the same style of share price movements.
Believe or not the MM's are having the best time of their lives sitting with the order books and keeping it under a tight spot.
In my opinion that implies that sooner or later 'they' will let the flood gates slightly open to start allowing the cpi to move upwards enough to pull in more FoM punters still sitting on the sidelines fearing to jump in as they hope for a lower entry than 13p.
Rest assured that whilst I have been having access to the cpi share trading background action and after seeing what's been happening among the funds and institutional investors and their bad entries, I for sure can sleep much better knowing what's going on even if it's not going to last more than 11 days from now.
So, if you see anything that I post, take it as the gospel truth and don't knock it or dismiss it as useless. Make the most of it. You and I don't have an another alternative, unless you're a hedge fund in disguise that likes to hang around bb shares forums to pretend you're a small time private investor when in reality you're a big fund trying to put the fear of God in the small money guy.
Happy Easter Go4Cpi
Have a lovely and Happy Easter Kipper9
Don't over indulge yourself with too many sticky sickly mini Easter eggs.
Take Care Bruv.😉🥚
Nice one, Kipper. This will come good I have no doubt. The June update will need to be out of the way, followed by the H1 results release in August and we can then meaningfully turn higher. Just needs patience and that's repeating what most of us have been saying for a while. AH will turn this around, IMO.
Good old Fearful is now in pumper mode and putting out goods bits of information. Every little helps I suppose, but he plays it by his rules which is not for me.
Have a good Easter break, chappies. We'll come good in a few months' time.
Now come on you lot of moaners; such delicate petals sometimes, really. Old Darth will sort it, but the universe wasn't conquered in a day. You need to come over to the Dark Side, and embrace The Force. Obi-Wan Bezos has taught him well. Remember, The Force is strong in this one.....
AH is a Star Wars fan, as many are, so with that in mind I thought i'd chip in with a few Darth quotes.
Anyway, that's me done until after Easter.
Then on Tuesday the SP will be “too infinity & beyond” (ok, that one was Buzz)
Happy Easter all
Trenners
Watch what you're saying as we have a psychiatrist aka (HHH81) on board dishing out free 'mental state' assessments.
Don't get caught out too.😇
Anyhow, please all be assured that you'll leave long enough to see your cpi investment achieving it scope all in due time. Capita(cpi) unfortunately suffered immensely at the hands of Jon Lewis and the old wood board that made part of his team of BoD executives. I would hope that does that have been part of his crusade and were 'forced' or you're out terms & conditions of their employment will eventually retire or move elsewhere.
Moreover, I sincerely hope and pray that teck wizkid turnaround master of failing IT businesses Ceo Adolfo Hernández slowly but surely brings on his own specially selected team of elite executives.
Outgoing Ceo JL has never dealt with the real underlying problems and made use of the family silver to keep the business going and of course to keep himself in the job getting close to £2million a year with all thrown in including perks. He will definitely be retiring on a very juicy pension in region of plus £10k a month easily and without a doubt. But I doubt he will be retiring for good. Watch out for Jon Lewis reappearing later on after his July retirement from Capita. The man love's the money and executives status far too much to be seen at home having just tea and biscuits and taking it easy. Watch this space.