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Thanks Mr T
You maybe should consider the question as to what is not manipulated. The answer is in fact easy, the things that do not matter are not manipulated, as they do not matter!
Gold, although it is a small market, it does seem to matter? In reality it is a question of the cost of manipulation versus the benefit. The cost of manipulation is not a lot (even if you are caught !?), and the benefit does spill out into a wider arena and questions which have hidden benefits, which tend to have more significance than the costs.
The wider arena has gold lobbing in as more than a commodity or currency, but something that has a lot of "emotional attachment" which goes beyond that which you can reasonably put into a spreadsheet, so the economists leave the room, not understanding something what they cant plug in and compute. They try but this is another game.
So no questions from me, gold is a manipulated market, and hence gold miners and perhaps more bizzarly, gold explorers are a beneficiaries of the manipulation. Gold explorers are bizzare as they have an implication in their price structure, as to what the gold price might be in the future!? Of course no one knows!
But people like me think the gold price is going to stagnate or appreciate, and hence gold explorers are not a bad bet, given you bet on the well intentioned and credentialled explorers (hint: very few of these)
So I am happy with CEY, who have a reasonable allocation to exporation, some of which is very likely to convert to income. . The commodity is gold The company have more reserves than they declare, more resources than they declare and more exloration upside .. So goes the legsilation, and so goes the engineer. The social capital is as good as if not better than most ...
good luck to us all ...
fortune tends to favour the brave and the more informed.
best
then Gnome
Bill Murphy, the chairman of the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee (GATA)who has led the fight against gold market manipulation for 25 years!
The formation of GATA, why Bill was censored long before ‘Cancel Culture’, how the silver market is heavily tampered with and the consequences that those rigging the market faced when found out.
25 years of the suppression of silver prices by J .P. Morgan!
https://tinyurl.com/383ur858
Everyone has an opinion on gold, ... if interested listen to Joe Cavatoni, Market Strategist at the World Gold Counci World Gold Council on the below chat, go in at 40 minutes on the podcast, more of a balanced and intelligent discussion
https://www.firstlinks.com.au/wealth-experience-podcast-s2-ep12
the speaker
https://www.gold.org/who-we-are/our-team/joseph-cavatoni
Growth of digital gold
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/gold/what-is-digital-gold/
Lots of factors impacting on gold, more than previously ...
enjoy the weekend ...
the gnome
Hi Razor's,
I'm in Helstone having breakfast so I can get a signal, other times I find at the cottage that I get the best signal in the very early hours!
I agree with your points, as Kees Dekker has pointed out to me on many occasions its very easy for mining CEO's when trying to raise cash by reeling in new investors to gloss over certain facts especially when they are making presentations to retail investors !
One of our old members who still resides in Jersey used to rent a house to Andrew Pardey when I asked him why he was getting out, but I was still willing to trust in a very senior member of management so I thought that can't be true, sad to say how wrong I was!
I used to be surprised how many CEOs would join in to give advice and their depth of experience on certain blog sites. No longer.
There are a lot of moving parts in a mine site, and a lot more in a large mining operation. To think, as a passive remote investor you have enough information to run the mine, is, a little naieve. To be polite.
There are some excellent exploration results, be it greenfields, or brown... but do I have enough information to make a call on how commercially significant these are? ... not really...an informed guess?...marginally....
Lets have good discussion, good observations,
To have a look at Andrew Pardey have a look at the share price of Predictive Discovery .... since he joined...going nowhere slowly ...
good luck all...
~
the gnome
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Happy Friday y’al
Enjoy your weekend!
Hi KEN23, could you please post your list, would be very valuable info. thanks
I stated the present BOD and CEO should be called to account and challenged, not changed at this stage.
New shareholders need to be made aware why the company is still suffering because of a catalogue of the previous managements ongoing and intended reckless behaviour.
I am quite clear on my opinions based on the evidence and not unrealistic in my expectations.
Take off your Rose coloured glasses Mr Bond and explain why you are so reluctant to admit to your self and others the deliberate and foolhardy, but very greedy actions of the past management are why Centamin is where it is now.
Cowichan is a very decent chap who feels passionate enough to question,that is to be applauded and indeed is expected by any and decent BOD
Hi Konan,
It is understandable, reasonable and to be expected that you like any other shareholder who isn't afraid to face what may be unpalatable facts should raise those questions, I agree with you entirely!
Taking all your valid points into consideration Centamin would and should have a higher share price than it does at present, most analysts and common sense are of the same opinion.
The share price remains discounted because the previous management were less than candid far too many times about what they knew only to well were unpalatable facts and so despite the new regime having made the long overdue very costly, albeit very necessary operational changes the market expects more than upbeat polished presentations and future forecasts !
The market demands actual delivery of guidance with increased and sustainable profits as a result of a significant reduction in AISC that being the cessation of the excess waste clearance contract!
What would certainly help is some significant share purchases by the CEO, CFO and the BOD unfortunately at present although trying to convince everyone else that the share price is very cheap they appear for whatever treason reluctance to buy themselves!
Tibbs
So now you want to change the BOD do you :-) ?
For what, and why , dont come up with more history of others , which you often repeat .
Seems you are confused ,and not realistic .
Which is a shame for you.
Your chances of that are zero.
Come out with evidence to back your claims ,then you might get taken serious.
Otherwise just get out ,like your friend.
Centamin is up .79 %, Hoc .2 % fres minus 2 %.
So all in all not bad. IMO.
I'm optimistic I just expected it not to be where it is
Red hot inflation
Geopolitical uncertainty
Declining confidence in US dollar
Central bank accumulation
Gold flirting with $2000 constantly
Rarely post here but now have approx 40k shares in a sipp/isa. Have seen some negative comments about the company but am happy to hold for the good times again(hopefully). I am surprised that the sp hasn’t moved up with the gold price though.
Take one for the team Robina.
A few weeks ago simply wall st said: Centamin plc (LON:CEY) Shares Could Be 48% Below Their Intrinsic Value Estimate
Just 12 days later: Investors who have held Centamin (LON:CEY) over the last three years have watched its earnings decline along with their investment.
Seems 90 is about the resistance level. I will need to sell for it to rise above this level. Works every time.....
Koran
I'm always the optomist never the pessimist
What a depressing stock to have held these past few years
True investors have choices to make if they are unhappy about how a company is performing, or being run on their behalf, the obvious easiest choice is to sell out, but then that choice is letting the company off the hook and foregoing a shareholders right and indeed duty to challenge the BOD and call the company to account.
In general a shareholder will likely achieve little satisfaction and likely just become more frustrated by sitting on their hands whilst gritting the teeth for fear off upsetting the BOD, or possibly being accused of
de ramping share price by speaking out.
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Barrick not brick lol
Tony, yes agreed and CEY have certainly had a few problems since early October 2020 wall movement first then later in October huge production cut as a result of having to set up mining in different area with lower grades however over the 2 years to October 2022 brick was down 58% and cey only a touch more at 63% so held up well for having massive share price fall from wall movement and not colapse as some have said.
Atb
Ken
It all depends on time frames as any miner can hit an issue at a particular time.
For example 5 yrs and 2 yrs give performance league as follows;
Shanta Gold, Centamin, HoC, Fresnillo and Hummingbird.
1 year has HoC, Hummingbird, Shanta, Centamin, Fresnillo
6 months
Hoc, Shanta, Centamin, Fresnillo and Hummingbird
1 month has HoC, Centamin, Shanta, Fresnillo and Hummingbird.
one week has HoC Shanta and Hummingbird all up 6% and Centamin and Fresnillo performing at zero change.
Why the changes well Hummingbird have failed to get a new mine running well, and HoC had the biggest collapse in share price awhile back and clawed their way back in delivering a new mine on schedule (how it works out is awaited). Fresnillo had a nightmare with a new silver mine with severe delays. Centamin we know about. What we can guarantee is if Centamin build a new mine the share price could be volatile as whether they get it right (price goes up a lot) or wrong (the price goes down).
My bet is that Centamin possibly goes up 3p when USA has a holiday and catches up with more junior miners.
I don't post a lot but want to bring a bit of positivity to this board.
I have no agenda to pump and dump as I've been in and out of centamin over the years but this time round I'm much heavier than I've ever been in thus share.
Mizoldgit.
The problem is some people want to buy a share and think that they're going to make a fortune in a few weeks they make me laugh then come on the boards spouting all their crap that this companies done way better but you have to look at the big picture in thus game 6 months to a year is a very short period that's why I study price trends over 2 3 and 4 years nit 3 weeks..
Atb
Ken
Mr T
Yes agree 100% cey has had a terrible time since the October 2020 debacle and having to spend 224mil in the waste clearance and stripping which should have been carried out as work was progressing in previous years.
These things always catch up in the end it's just that us poor sods aren't there on the ground to see it in person.
Well at least with gold at this level they're making some good profits at an AISC at around $1300 oz
Let's just keep fingers crossed for a q4 130k oz production
Atb
Ken