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Hey Baldy, here it is, in the Company's own words:
"The plan consists in operating the Sekisovskoye Mine at 850kt annual capacity for three years then ramping up production to 2Mtpa over a six year period. This will be achieved by increasing the capacity of the existing processing plant to 1Mtpa from 0.85Mtpa for US$8.4m and constructing a new 1Mtpa metallurgical plant and tailings dumps for US$45.7m. The 2Mtpa production level is planned to be achieved with the development of vertical skip, cage and ventilation shafts down to the -430masl level. As such, while the mine is being currently accessed via two declines, a capital expenditure ("Capex") of US$204m is planned for the Life of mine underground expansion in order to develop a new vertical skip, cage and ventilation shafts as well as the associated infrastructure".
Look at the Advfn board. A poster there has confirmed Seki plans for 2mtpa having also watched the Presentation. Teren Sai is on top of that. They haven't disclosed the plant capacity at TS yet.
There seems to be some confusion between long term goals at Sekisovkoye and the long term goal for the entire company (Seki plus Teren-sai). It is important as investors that we know what we are investing in. The long term goal for the entire company is 2Mtpa, the long term goal for Sekisokoye is currently 1Mtpa (to be achieved in 2-3 years).
You can see it in the numbers. Nowhere is there a long term goal of 3Mtpa. There is no 3rd processing plant currently in the long term plan.
Also the life of mine (LoM) for Sekisovkoye is >30 years, the 2P ore reserves are 33.45Mtpa. IF the 'plan' were for 2Mtpa processing at Sekisovkoye then the LoM would NOT be >30 years...it would be >16 years. Do the maths...see the light!!
Baldy, you obviously didn't watch the presentation, they confirmed the intention to expand Seki to 2mtpa. You don't know your arse from your elbow!
Bald Bullocks Eagle you have multiple habits of talking bullocks now go fly away or go under your troll bridge .
Dofmeister, are you trying to mislead people on purpose? You are quoting two seperate sources and making 2+2=99.
It is obvious from the latest presentation that the 'company' has a long term goal of 2Mtpa. This will be achieved by upgrading the current processing plant at Sekisovkoye from 850Ktpa to 1Mtpa over the next 2-3 years. Then a second processing plant may be built at Teren-sai. It is all laid out in the latest presentation....it is clear & simple to understand. Why do you have a fixation with 3 processing plants and 'presumably' 3Mtpa? It is wrong & misleading to continue repeating this falehood.
I have said that it wasn't entirely your fault you got it wrong because the annual report was ambiguous....to continue trying to justify your original mistake just makes you look foolish (IMO).
Hey Baldy, now talking about another plant at Teren Sai as well !
From the presentation:
"Construction of the second gold processing plant at the Teren-Sai deposit"
Get your small nodule around that one !
Hey Baldy, from the 2020 AR:
"The long term plan still consists in operating the Sekisovskoye Mine at 850kt annual capacity for three years then
ramping up production to 2Mtpa over a six year period". Confirmed in the presentation. Where is the ambiguity ? LOL.
"The company did say in the annual report that long term plans envisage two 1million tonnes/annum processing plants at Seki plus the possibility of a separate plant at Teren-Sai."
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Panda, as I said at the time the annual report was ambiguous....it could be read two ways. The latest presentation has IMO provided clarity.
PS I don't think the annual report had a long term goal of 3Mtpa....which is ambiguous IF their long term goal was three 1Mtpa processing plants. The latest presentation seems to suggest the long term goal is the new processing plant at Teren-sai....it "MAY be required". Perhaps there is a 'LONG long term goal' of 3 processing plants....longer than long term!!!!
The company did say in the annual report that long term plans envisage two 1million tonnes/annum processing plants at Seki plus the possibility of a separate plant at Teren-Sai. However this is a long-term goal so it's best to focus now on the more immediate plans to increase output to the current plant capacity of 850k TPA and then to upgrade this to 1M TPA which would have the potential to boost gold production to 60,000 oz per annum
"Read it once more Baldy. Sekisovskoye is being upgraded to 2mtpa. That will be using a shaft they are currently sinking and s second CIL plant."
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DofM, read what once more? The latest presentation is quite clear I think. Have you seen something else that nobody else has?
A new shaft & CIL plant doesn't mean that Seikisovkoye will be able to process 2Mtpa.
Read it once more Baldy. Sekisovskoye is being upgraded to 2mtpa. That will be using a shaft they are currently sinking and s second CIL plant.
Spike, I suspect you may be right. Although I sort of had the idea - from reading previous communiques - that Sekivoskoye plant was for upgrade & the new plant was at Teren-sai. The dead giveaway was the long term goal was 2 Mtpa NOT 3 Mtpa. The latest presentation does make things clearer & remove a layer of ambiguity.
To be honest I think until the presentation this week the company didn’t know how many processing plants they would need and where they should be.
" I suggest you read the report carefully again - it is proposed to construct a separate plant at Teren Sai and upgrade Seki via 2 x 1 M tpa plants. I give up........."
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It was Dofmeister....apparently he gave up.
Hey Badie Eagle R.N.S.
Seems the board of clowns read your post mate .
Opportunity for those who like to ask questions?
L.O.L..
Badie has fixed this for us cheers ! G.L.A.
Based on their track record is market price for continued lies !
This is what you get for broken promises going back to 2007 !
I invested here then and still waiting for return of idiots clowns running this company ?
Baldie stop complaining and get real , sell if you need to and stop moaning . prepare for long term as most of us have put up with this non performance for years .
".....it's an extremely clear policy.... there will be no divs until late 2024/ 2025, depending on gold price and repayment terms + timetable for any finance/loan packages."
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I can understand that to some people it is a clear policy.....but then you add "depending on gold price and repayment terms + timetable for any finance/loan packages.". So the headline is a dividend but the small print says otherwise....which I suppose is why they framed it like that.
Why not just say (like most other companies) that the BOD aim to have a dividend as soon as possible BUT the investment in the mine makes that unlikely for the next 2-3 years? That would be clearer IMO.
It's not a joke at all, it's an extremely clear policy and makes no bones about clearly stating the lower of Net Profit OR free cashflow.
With very clear projections on Capex and growth particularly in 2022 & 2023 in the same presentation, it should be obvious to most there will be no divs until late 2024/ 2025, depending on gold price and repayment terms + timetable for any finance/loan packages. Who knows could be earlier depending on whether they go for financing/loans or a mix of equity.
Overall its a very good presentation, step change in both concise and detailed information and due to quality should have been a RNS if just to get more attention/ exposure.
The dividend policy is a huge joke....anyone reading the headline numbers will be disappointed.
"25% of consolidated net profit OR 25% of FCF (lowest)"
More realistically (truthfully)...shareholders get nothing until thay have finished developing the mine(s)...which could be many years. I have no problem with that but would prefer a bit of honesty.
PS One 'hidden' danger is that the controlling family at some point make an unconditional offer for the company that materially undervalues the business....and they accept it!!
Some time ago there was 'discussion' that there were in fact 3 processing plants to be built....a second plant at Sekiskovkoye and a 3rd plant at Teren-Sai. That was news to me and I questioned it at the time. The latest report sort of confirms that the current Sekiskovkoye plant is 'only' being upgraded to 1Mtpa (from 850Ktpa).....a new plant 'MAY' be required at Teren-Sai...."In the future as production grows an additional golf processing plant may be required (at Teren-Sai)" (pp11 of report)
I think the 'plan' is to truck ore from Teren-Sai to the current plant....presumably until the 1Mtpa capacity (post upgrade) is exceeded when they will 'presumably' look at operating a second plant at Teren-sai.
"Interestingly I can't find that report on the website any more and the links in the RNS no longer work."
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I think you will find it filed under BIN. It is amazing it ever saw the light of day with such a glaring error....that is Altyn's faux pas (another one).
"That sort of blows a hole in the daft research - limiting gold production to 26,000 oz pa for next 3 years -that was paid for and promoted by Altyn."
Yep agreed, it was that report that killed the upward momentum the SP had. Interestingly I can't find that report on the website any more and the links in the RNS no longer work.
Well no RNS but I've put an order in here to increase my position as that presentation showed a lot of confidence and professionalism - I think its fairly clear the exit rate for 2021 will be somewhere around 9000oz per year so this is way undervalued.
Trans Siberian Gold was taken out for around £100million in August - production was about 45000oz per year, TSG had better grades, but ultimately the AISC was around the same. Political risk is at worst the same, if not higher for TSG and crucially proven reserves and resources for TSG were far far lower and there was significant ongoing spend on exploration to try and extend resources and mine life.
For me this offers comfortably better value than TSG did, due to the much larger resource and clear path to substantially higher production.
"Clear growth strategy aiming to double production in the next 3 years.....2 x production to 1Mtpa WITHIN 3 years from 2020 level of 506Mtpa (sic)"
That sort of blows a hole in the daft research - limiting gold production to 26,000 oz pa for next 3 years -that was paid for and promoted by Altyn.