Vodafone Share Chat (VOD)

VOD is a BUY and it doesn’t matter if it falls more, LC is purely a speculative spread better who thinks he’s smart. 80% of spreadbetters lose money and I bet LC is a loser. The real money makers are investors who can make 20% - 50% return yearly on their portfolio. VOD will shine in 2019 or 2020 definitely but that doesn’t mean sell out now!

Thanks LC,

But it’s only natural most are buys & inevitably there’s strong defensiveness about those buys. I too have a long bias here, even if it's subliminal.

But also as I’ve been in similar holes before where i've messed up. So I know from experience that allowing heart to rule mind when almost everything goes against a stock on very little news often leads to selling at loss near bottoms, even if I concede you may well be right here & we may go lower. But as stated, I’m braced for that, though far from 100% expecting it.

Detraction is sometimes okay, but not when quality posters keep getting banned. To me that just seems a shame when it's easily avoidable. - ATB anyway.

Why doesn't L.C. try another tack, are you joking. It's because he is a nut case, what part of that don't you get? Many have tried to get him to talk in a coherent way to express his dubious talents but failed, why do you think you can get through to him. Do you work in that line perhaps? If so, why don't you suggest he gets help for his obvious mental health problems?

JackD,

Calling a psycho “a quality poster” is dangerous!

H-hi,

He doesn't mean here come December. He refers to another forum altogether. Regards.

Hi LC,

My humble point simply highlights what’s evident from some of your posts. You’re highly observant about certain aspects of markets not apparent to others. You know stuff. IMO, going against the grain on this BB, you’re a quality poster. But there are better ways of putting that across whereby you don’t get banned. As it is, rubbing people up the wrong way will only aggravate many. There’s no need to make a fool of anyone. Stick to the point.

You don't have to agree with others, just not come over as so antagonistic,, which actually detracts from your general qualities.

Re UT: very little volume to read too much into it, considering they're a mix of buys & sell in auction. Only 1.11m. Didn;t pay too much mind to it. By comparison closing UT was over 24m

By the by, I have no idea what’s gone on with LC when he first came here. I can only imagine. But if it’s water of a duck’s back, as you claimed earlier, how about letting stuff go & just stick to stocks & markets?

I suggest you do get back in December. Some find value, even if only mostly reading. - Regards.

Balaska,

Don’t ever freaking come back here you useless turd, got no spine, no brain and zero life. Your Debs and Bats tips are not that great. You are a weak, sad, hopeless guy...........show us your great / big short on VOD! Did you even short VOD, if you did you would be too busy to waste your time here.

" Cant you SEE it????

I came here last night....

first time in weeks.....

opened 144 next morning.....

not putting it together yet????

the LC has it all mapped out....."

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I also came on here late last night and ha! Waddya know? It closed up blue 1.09% today!
- Only one logical conclusion to be drawn - obviously I'm Kryptonite to your bearish prices :) :) :)

Don’t listen to LC or Balaska.........just keep buying or switch off. I swear this useless guy is paid by brokers to induce dumb retail traders to sell VOD at a loss. This guy is working hard to convince you to dump an income share.........last call, you are super dumb........try talking to pension / income funds. You are a disgrace preying on retail traders here............you are shameless and disgusting. I prefer a guy selling something than a vulture looking to feed on corpses!

"...- usually in an incoherent manner - as though the latter were laws of nature. If the aforementioned were able to post sensibly and gave some logical reasoning behind their assertions, then I might be take them more seriously..."

TL - He does on other forums other than LSE (where he still wears the Last Call moniker) he's lucid and coherent on those. It's just this one (VOD) that he sounds different. Here's a sample of him posting about VOD (I've cut bits out to fit in one page (capitals are mine for effect) :

" I’ve been in this game a long time.... And I’ve been in the heart of it. Not now though.
In past years, we had funds with the same mentality. Buy, hold, see out the flux etc. And it aided us mere mortals with same.

BUT NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT VOLATILITY. A stock slowly grinding up is of little interest to them now. They are judged by the month, rather than defined by the long term career. Your ‘trading life’ expectancy in the city is very short. You have to make the money fast before your out. And they can’t wait years. Better to shock n awe any stock. Apple I’m sure will feel it one day too.

And if they can drive a company share price down 90% (simply by having no interest), they will make 100% in three months on it down the road. Good deal right?

Just a different game now. THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO STOP THESE HIGH DIV YIELDERS HOLDING UP CAPITAL FOR YEARS. It’s not at the fire yet but they are working on it.

It’s not hard work for them. Just don’t buy any. THEN AT SOME STAGE, THEY WILL BE AS VOLATILE AS ZERO YIELDERS. And traded normally.....But they’ll get it there one day."

Hi LC,

Hope all goes well? Like the new alias. Pity about these ongoing spats to no useful purpose that I can see. I’ve said this before, you’ve obviously something useful to contribute re markets. So instead of putting yourself in direct opposition to others, why not try another tack? Something more constructive, with less abrasiveness. That way, others may respond positively, there’s less falling out & no-one gets banned? Just a thought. - Regards.

Hi TLWilliams,

Thanks. Seems you've had a highly interesting evening. So much about the universe that we've yet to unravel. One could spend a lifetime devoted to it alone.

Re VOD & markets. I remain cautiously optimistic for next week as, considering the approach I've settled on of holding on regardless, there's little more I can do. I also think that a lot may be priced re much voiced concerns re possible divi-cuts, et al. If I'm wrong, no doubt we go lower.

I agree with your other points. No problems with different viewpoints here, nor any poster, however bearish. But if people are going to take those views on board, it needs a bit of diplomacy in delivery. Respect is earned, not a right, such is the way of these things. Especially when significant money is involved. - Regards.

Wrong board sorry

A month until make or break time. Early December details of possible restructuring and results update, down to £7 or up to £10 , you takes your choice.
I’m in either way as hav £10 average, having taken a couple of dividends but closing st a loss isn’t an option.
It was interesting Sorell talking about an old bid for wpp a couple of years back from Buffet.

TomE and jackdawson.

Very many thanks for your responses. I have just got home from an evening lecture on “Dark Matter and Dark Energy” so it is good to switch from esoteric scientific ideas to more concrete matters. I agree that it is really unfortunate that a small number of egocentric individuals choose to visit bulletin board with their scaremongering comments, which serve no useful purpose. Last week, I mistakenly commented on the quantity of Mrd5432’s posts. I was wrong, as he provides ongoing insights, always with a good sense of humour, and regularly posts quick summaries. My main objection is about contributors, who try to force through their opinions - usually in an incoherent manner - as though the latter were laws of nature. If the aforementioned were able to post sensibly and gave some logical reasoning behind their assertions, then I might be take them more seriously.

I read a recent contribution when I got in, which hinted at what Mr. Read might say in next Tuesday’s presentation. It looks promising (more or less as expected), and I intend to look at it in detail. My concern isn’t about Vodafone’s results, but the interpretation and spin that the market puts on them, and the subsequent share price performance. I was hoping to see a pre-announcement rise in the share price, but this is looking less likely by the day.

Perhaps, we shall see some developments over the next three trading days? Kind regards.

share price and fundamentals. They don't look too different to ours - if anything Vodafone is in better shape.... I am sticking by this one. Things could be a lot lot better after financials are releases or worse. Who knows.

Your right. We saying this is a pile of poo! Cant even rise 3% but can easily drop 3-4%. Im after nick reads job.

Can I suggest that all who are fed up with last call, send an e mail to info@lse.co.uk insisting last call is banned for good.

Vod adr in USA is doing good for once!

So you did put some thought into it. Good. Last call i brought Debenhams on your say so. Now im screwed there and here!

Last call I know its been a good few bannings but I want you to put some thought into the names. So @76p we will be doing a reverse takeover of libertys assets as that will be costing more than our market value. I've worked out if voda sell australia india new zealand Vodacom in kenya and few others around the world we could quite easily wipe out current debt. But voda doesn't sell nothing just keeps on buying and merging!

Q1 2018 revisited

Vodafone Group PLC (VOD.LN) on Wednesday backed its guidance for fiscal 2019, after first-quarter revenue fell 4.9% due to currency headwinds and the adoption of new accounting standards.
Revenue for the quarter ended June 30 was 10.91 billion euros ($12.75 billion) compared with EUR11.47 billion in the year-earlier period, the London-based telecommunications company said. This reflected the adoption of new IFRS 15 accounting standards, as well as foreign-exchange headwinds, the company said.
Vodafone said strong performance in Germany and a recovery in the U.K., coupled with continued growth in its Africa, Middle East and Asia Pacific region helped to offset increased competition in Italy and Spain.
Quarterly organic service revenue--a figure which is closely watched by analysts--increased 1.1% based on IFRS 15 accounting standards, Vodafone said. Based on the previous accounting measures, organic service revenue rose 0.3% in the first quarter, the company said.
Vodafone confirmed that it continues to expect adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization to grow between 1% and 5% on an underlying basis in the year ending March 31, 2019.

https://www.marke****ch.com/story/vodafone-backs-full-year-guidance-as-revenue-falls-2018-07-25

Its getting ridiculous now - bloke needs help .

Looks like he's back !!!!!!!! New profile. Lets see how long this time.

"I also have also never heard of a/m uncrossing trades, I thought that was all done after market close in the evening. Is it just what's left over, if they have run out of time perhaps?"
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Danielh,

Just caught your post at 17.56. Good question. FWIW, I also didn't know this for a while after I started trading/investing & it seem many people still don't. But for FTSE stocks traded via SETs on London Stock Exchange, this is the rota, quoted below from link. - GL as for anyone else. This game can test the patience of all of us at times.

07:50 Start of opening auction
08:00 Opening auction ends and uncrossing algorithm runs to determine opening price, and automatic electronic order matching commences. For SETSmm the Mandatory Quote Period (MAP) commences - during this time Market Makers must provide firm 2 way prices
16:30 Automatic electronic order matching ceases and the Mandatory Quote Period ends. The closing auction starts.
16.35 Closing auction ends and uncrossing algorithm runs to determine closing price

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-1596151/After-hours-share-price-mystery.html