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I read it that it was thirty currently on the trial not thirty in total
30 Miggy? FFS!
Oilor - I do agree with you I am not disputing that point at all by all who have made it - I am in total agreement. But and there is a BUT, the government would not get involved in a home Trail of this nature as they are looking at the national issue with deaths / Vaccines and hospitalisations, a 120 home trial just not on that Radar, this can only be performed as a pharma based trail, otherwise Government would need to get involved in thousands of the things. Government has prioritised and 120 home trail not in that universe (I get that frustrating but being a realist). On the flip side Government is assisting SNG with the much bigger patients trial for the 20 Hospital NHS trials, so we cannot just say they are not helping as they are, but it is frustrating when looking at the bigger picture from where we are sitting.
This needs an email to consillium as share price sensitive potentially misleading information is now in the public domain, they need to resolve it quickly
I think you need to calm down oil. It may be this journey is taking longer than most PI’s, including me, thought it would take but it’s a journey nonetheless and I think we will be happy with the final destination. Really that’s all that matters. Within 12 months or thereabouts SNG will have completed a phase II and III National and international trial and a home trial here and in the USA. Who would have predicted that back in February.
Well i'm spitting feathers at the 30 number as you can probably tell. I am fuming!
He did clarify it he said ‘we currently’. Ffs what more do you need.
To get this approved globallh you need more than 1 cohntry and on different continents to prove it works globally. UK alone would not cut the mustard...
Axe, they have gone to the states becauase the are getting the rod from the Uk!
If they had the support here they would be no need it's that simple.
The problem SNG have with this Home Trail is that everyone has been basically visiting testing stations to be told whether they have it or not (Not GP's who could refer patients for trial - most of this is being done through apps and hidden behind computer screens etc) and if positive just being told to self isolate, most people just believe they have to stay in to get well - and those that don't get well just end up in hospital. There is no real stats being collected on what stage people are at with the Virus positives or what stage of virus most people end up being admitted to hospital with (I certainly have never seen them or heard them discussed anywhere). SNG are targeting a specific group for the required data set they need ie; Stage 3 & 4 COVID Virus affected. This is extremely difficult to pick up this subset of human guinea pigs, I am not surprised it is a slog. I do believe they are now pushing this though and that is why they have gone to their partner in the states to launch a further arm of the trial, this will increase the likely hood of getting the required subset recruited for the numbers required to correct the shortfalls so we can produce the promised data - This I get fully and understand.
Lets keep it non personal Doc...we are all here to understand and we all make errors...my apology stands...it was a genuine mistake. I thought I had put ths right as soon as I noticed.
I heard "we have 30 currently entolled in that" to me that says here and now. Not a total. I will message RM tomorrow to clarify this.
Great interview. Gives us impetus to carry on Onwards and Especially Upwards !
Roll on tomorrow , eventually we will receive good news.
Finally we know why we have not had an update. The numbers are embarrising!
Exactly Cars, it's not like they havn't got enough of our cash to do it! Get a Fu.ck.in.g grip Richard FFS!
I feel like signing up for the home trial myself to up the numbers but know how wrong it would be...so desperate...so disappointed
Im with everyone saying 30 isn't a good number after so many months. Lets forget the bit that the science is class...this is also about sales and marketing...it's a total business not just some science lab...they are **** at marketing...just hire someone good fill up those numbers get the results back asap there is no need to take this slow and steady...the treatment is created now go and bloody market it...im sorry but rm really needs to get a move on this is a race noone will wait for 2months for the trial to end
That was an excellent interview which reinforced my already strong opinion of Synairgen.
Agree somewhat with the concern over numbers for the home trial, but that is offset with positive news about the yanks setting one up.
Meanwhile all the scientific evidence points to interferon beta and soon someone will jump the gun and pre-order a batch of SNG001 for stockpiling for fear of missing out. Bojo / Handjob - cough up now or miss out securing some for UK residents.
Consilium are all sat at home playing video games. I could have done better on my own if I new Synairgen were in such a mess.
FFS!
Sorry Doc...(apologies for they name typo) That's not my style...
Dorkdaneeka...it will be filled and we will sell 100,000 units a month in 2021. We dont know hoe cljnigen will be marketing, and they are experts. I think they wil do a great job for us. The bod have realised they dont have that skillset and subcontracted it...now they have the cash.
Other injected inteferons are innefective. Ifn Gamma etc
Vaccines not mass scale for 12 months or so.
US home trial starting/started with FDA backing
UK home trial numbers rackjng up.
They are doing everything correctly and the science will out!!! Rome wasnt built in a day.
I will be loading up as and when I can.
All the best
How can one conduct a home trial, a trail which has such importance to the fight against COVID and not tell anyone about it.
What is this?
Word of mouth?
‘30 currently’ doesn’t to me translate as thirty in total. That means 30 currently being monitored. Anyone’s guess how many others have been recruited prior or since. Plus this gets underway in America, numbers will balloon.
MrCosts
The proff says 30 people signed up for UK Home Trial is "pretty good " and to be expanded in the US let hope we get FDA approval pretty quick
Sorry, pressed post too early!
"we have 30 currently being treated" that means we will have treated many more in the home setting priod to this.
Didnt Richard say they have been recruiting 1 or 2 a day since the end of October? Numvers were low up to that point, but if you assume the 30 now are at the end of the 2 weeks. (25th - 14 days = 11th Nov...). Assuming 1.5 per day since the end of October...call it 14 days x 1.5 = 21. Thats 51. They had lets assume 30 between launch of home trial mid June to October...Thats around 80 so far.
Targetting 120 so 40 to go. That takes us to somewhere around 4 weeks time (excluding any in the US)...with US this could be reduced to weeks.
Initial home trial results could be available in January.....
30 in trial (as in currently on treatment) would tally with RMS comment of “adding one or two a day” from last week.
The big question is how is their marketing of this stuff so very very bad? For a few grand a day they could have people handing fliers out to 65+ people as they walk out of govt walk-in testing centres. Very frustrating.
The US news would be massive if confirmed as the FDA lead on that means numbers would come very quickly.
I needed this interview after this week. Shame Synairgen don’t advertise their media activity or even show it on their website.