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There's one I quickly found.
I've stopped giving a damn about the whole thing tbh because I was never in the slightest bit concerned about covid and as the narrative played out, it was as clear as day there was shenanigans afoot and many people were convinced we were in good hands.
Some people might say if you didn't care, why are you posting?
I come here to check up on my investment from time to time and sometimes I feel the need to give the other side of people's argument. Whether people agree or not is up to them, but both sides are as important as each other.
Docdaneeka , Well you could throw those accusations of poor trials and incomplete studies towards the vaccines as well. The evidence coming out from published data ( FORCED to release by the court under FOI ) that show outrageous failings in the studies, underestimation / non testing of side effects and efficacy claims not to mention the abject failings of adhering to the quality control in the manufacture processes !!
Ivermectin is known to be safe as long as it is prescribed and safe dosage applied millions of people have taken this medicine for many years and has been extremely effective in its usage as well as being very safe. Many eminent doctors in the USA and elsewhere were prescribing this along with other treatments to their patients as a treatment for, and as prophylaxis against, COVID-19 infection.
Your extrapolation to "And this is without mentioning all the good ole boys taking the family out to the cowshed and poisoning them all" may well also be claimed against all the ` lab rats ` that lined up at the `showers ` and without any idea of content or consideration willingly accepted an experimental novel gene therapy pumped into their arms by non medical operatives who didn't know how to properly inject patients.
Migs...
I was responding to the 2 drugs you mentioned...Please can you post anything that shows
ivermectin is a "fantastic" treatment for Covid... ??? The discussion was not about the ethics of
FDA/CDC...That is another discussion altogether!!!!! ATB!
It's been used billions of times. It's all smoke and mirrors to allow EUA. It's the simple. And yes, they could be severe overdoses if people take crazy amounts. There was an extremely calculated approach to near criminalise pharmacists who wanted to sell/prescribe it.
It all stinks, just like the opiate scandal (obviously not with the same repercussions) but it shows what big pharma are capable of on an astronomical scale.
Manifesto that's all well and good if you think the FDA and CDC are acting alone... but they are clearly in bed up to their b***s with big pharma. I've no doubt about it.
Dexamethasone is also out of patent and has been widely used as a treatment for Covid....
111112.... That is pure speculation on your part not fact!
The main reason why Ivermectin wasn't given FDA approval was, that if it was approved then big pharma couldn`t get authorization for their experimental vaccines ... The secondary reason was that Ivermectin is `out` of patent and therefore available cheaply as a generic drug meaning no financial gain to pharma. It is becoming abundantly clear that there is an `unhealthy` relationship between the FDA , CDC etc and big pharma where financial ties are being exposed that could be seen to show a conflict of interest and worse.
Ivermectin Products are Not Approved by FDA to Prevent or Treat COVID-19
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not authorized or approved using ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19 in humans and has cautioned about the potential risks of using ivermectin for COVID-19. This medication is FDA-approved to treat certain infections caused by internal and external parasites, but is not authorized or approved by the FDA to prevent or treat COVID-19.
During the COVID-19 pandemic and recent surges of COVID-19 cases, rates of ivermectin prescriptions dispensed from retail pharmacies have increased, as has use of ivermectin-containing veterinary products available over the counter but not intended for human use. U.S. poison control centers have experienced a rise in calls reporting ivermectin misuses and overdoses and reports of more people experiencing adverse effects.
Adverse effects of ivermectin overdose include:
Gastrointestinal symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea
Low blood pressure (hypotension)
Neurologic effects such as decreased consciousness, confusion, hallucinations, central nervous system depression, seizures, coma, and death
Ivermectin may also increase sedative effects of other medications such as benzodiazepines and barbiturates.
The National Institutes of Health (NIH) COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel has determined that there are currently insufficient data to recommend using ivermectin to treat COVID-19. Clinicians and public health practitioners should educate patients about the risks of using ivermectin without an indication or prescription, as well as about the risks of ingesting ivermectin products that are meant solely for external use or veterinary use. COVID-19 vaccination is safe and the most effective means to prevent infection and protect against severe disease and death from SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. Clinicians are strongly encouraged to educate patients to use proven COVID-19 prevention measures, especially getting vaccinated and boosted as soon as eligible, and use FDA-authorized treatment.
There's any number of studies that show ivermectin is fantastic to use for use against Covid.
Just because it is cheap and wouldn't make big pharma money, the news media tried to make ivermectin into some disgraceful thing. Shame really. If you think big pharma has the public's health at the core of what they do then I think you are being a bit blinkered.
'By trusting Pfizer and making a considerable gamble with taxpayer funds, the White House flushed $5.3 billion taxpayer dollars largely down the drain. The White House is now on the hook for an additional $5.3 billion—for a total of $10.6 billion'
Yes, different rules apply to the big boys. In the end, we will see success :-) Wish all LTH good health and wealth.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/biden-pays-big-bucks-for-pfizers-latest-flop/