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'Let it go, Let it Go'
'You can't hold the Share Price back anymore'
'Unveil the Tech, and do not care what they're going to say'
'Because the Share Price never bothered me anyway'
Courtesy of the DeepvergeSongwritingSolutions
Ha Ha Ha .... Well played!!
What was that song from Frozen... Can't for the life of me, remember what it was??? Ha Ha Ha
Oh and can we start a petition with regards 'DVRG and waste water detection' or maybe a march.
Sorry DebC, just teasing, I know you are passionate about this and I agree..
No its not... Two events, not connected... Just my opinion.
All the best
So where do we go from here..
Pondering the SP and Market Value - 45p (Mkt value of Deepverge £65-70m) seems fair at the moment, without news, this maybe cheap if media outlets start to pick up on the Microtox BT
This could be become a 'Traders Share' though for a while, as there is nothing stopping Helium buying at 30p and selling at 55p... And smart traders taking a ride on the back of Helium.
That said at 30p it could be a target for another Fund who watched (pleasingly) at the SP dropping Thursday/Friday having put in a 3m order in .... Time will tell - Incoming RNS's perhaps
Will Deepverge go all out to promote Microtox BT or put it on slow - burn whilst they test the 5000 and in the meantime focus on Wastewater Detection and Refitting the 3000? (Jeez there's a lot of Micro**** and large numbers)
Government Interest... Now that sounds interesting... Subsidies and large scale roll-out
Dell involvement - Could be significant partnership if they need their legal team on it (unless they just stole their Logo)
Interesting times ahead if nothing else... Good luck all (IMHO)
Paul, how can you say the drop was not connected to the
presentation, but was a result of trading, that`s a complete
contradition, ask yourself why people trade, they buy because
they like, they sell when they don`t like, simple!
Ha Ha Ha - 'I'm so frustrated that we haven't heard a peep about DVRG and waste water detection' -
This is really p******* you off, I can tell.
If you accept that the SP drop was NOT connected to the presentation and company at all and was a direct result of trading then the Company has nothing to apologies for, If you do not, then.....
All the best
I’m sure there’s a lot going on in the background and given how we have a decent on ground presence in China and are award winners as well as having product in many provinces I’m keen to see some pre-orders and that will then snowfall and FOMO. Remember China is massive and given what a hot topic wastewater monitoring is if they have the best solution all else will want the same and I suspect we could secure pre-orders from China ahead of anywhere else.
A number of football games have already been cancelled because players and staff have tested positive. Would the EFL like to speak to Big G so he can explain the benefit s of our new bit of kit.
Why not separate positive and negative chips. The Affimers bind the virus.
Could even return negative to user, as no risk of covid, you just checked it.
Then again that buggers business model. Say max 7 days per chip, you know when it was first used. Reuse 7 times then bin it. Or positive, bin it in different bin to burn, recycle the others.
Sitting on the bog, but I am sure team can think this thru.
Thanks for your reply GB.. Ive just watched your proactive interview again.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bfleOR9Lo
- and although im still not fully in agreement with the product i can see where your vision more. Im still invested, its my single biggest invest in my life that ive ever made. And thats because i believe in you and where integumen was heading before COVID-19 came along. I am but one man, so lets hope im wrong, im happy to be. Lets hope theres a market for it, in fact im hoping your in talks with the NHS, police authorities or councils as they are coming into contact with the general public at the service level. If we can convince them to have 24hr passes "for safety and health reasons", then the world would be our oyster.. If your not in talks with those, get the sales team on it. Im here for the long haul regardless.. enjoy the rest of your weekend.. thanks.
Potential—Ele.me currently claim to screen delivery guys daily, temp check! Would be a nice potential competitive advantage to be able to advertise your drivers have been properly checked daily.
Ele.me is China's largest food delivery giant with 53.4% market share. They have 260 million users, 3 million couriers, and are estimated to have delivered nearly 300 million orders. Alibaba in 2018 valued Ele.me at USD 9.5 billion.
Tiptree precisely, also at work if that means that the office can be fully staffed, or the factory floor normally manned then it'll be worth more than £4 per person to the business in extra productivity.
If paying for BT means I can do normal stuff again, price is not really such an issue: with concert tickets at up to £600 a go (and more), even £50 for a test to let you in is perfectly OK. And if a long-haul holiday costs £2k each, same applies. Crack on.
Good to see you full on defending your sp/vision...
Am only invested here cos the boyfriend thinks it’s a good story....hope it is....no research whatsoever done my end haha
Happy to say position in Biontech is 5x my position here!
The breathalyser sounds great and not just for COVID but well beyond, could be a game changer given the flexibility.
For me in the short term for shareholder value it’s about Microtrace OVA7100 and real-time monitoring. 3,000 will be retrofitted but surely the demand will be massive for water cos, govs May even insist they have it and put it into regulation. Massive opportunity and who else can do this?
I bet pre-orders from China will come soon and other countries. Demand will be massive and can we manufacture or do we need an OEMs for EU, Asia. America’s etc?
A massive opportunity and MWG already works in the US, China, Spain, India and has teams and partners all over.
@justdavie, now I see where you are coming from. I recall someone asking a dentist whether it is necessary to use dental floss all of your teeth. His response was "No, of course not, only the ones you want to keep".
The same situation is here. You only have to use it, if you want to get on an airplane, if you want to get through security in an airport, if you want to get on a cruise ship and if you want to get off a cruise ship and confirm to the port authority that you don't have infectious spreadable COVID19 or Norovirus. If you want to go to a theatre, get past the bouncer at a nightclub, football stadium, concert, packed with 54,000 or Glastonbury Festival with half a million people, or perhaps any business conference where you engage one to one with your colleagues. How about schools and third level education dorms, classes? How about the comfort of knowing your fellow passengers have not tested positive for COVID19? Is that worth it?
Probably only useful for those who don't want to spread it to anyone. For everyone else, no point using it. (Tongue in cheek comment and no offense intended)
Excellent. Thanks for the detailed reply, GB..
Re: BT, strikes me that you’re most likely to get initial buy in from corporateS with expensive teams to keep intact and functional. For instance, trading or m&a teams at investment banks or surgical teams in US hospitals. In the public sector, it would be armed response teams - military/police, close protection teams, etc...Follow the money: Get one investment bank to be part of your beta test and they’ll ALL want to pay up!
Yep the technicals are not an easy fix. But i cant see people buying the breathalyser which costs £x amount per use in the real world.. Imagine wanting to go cinema or something. £10 per ticket + £x to test before your allowed in.. Lets say x is £3. Thats 30% on the price of entry.. What are people going to do ? i tell you what, they're not going to bother going. Im saying whatever the solution, business needs to pick up the costs. The people do not want the inconveneice of either buying a brethalyser or paying for it. It has to be a cost of business to set off. Its a fine line between conveneice, inconvenience and what people will tolerate.
Davie large groups of people believe that one shot LFDs are a great idea, they will cost more, and have no digital signature. Multi user requires the affimer to bind and then release on command, and for the sensor area to be made appropriately sterile to accept the next sample (perhaps 24hrs latter), else you'll risk false positives and negatives.
To me bind and release is optimal, but tricky, an acid wash perhaps, as affimers are meant to be quite stake, or dual powered laser and burn it off? Maybe that can be done, but it'll require a machine to do it, so a much bigger handheld machine, or you removing your sensor from the machine, where the person before you may have been positive? Or just have mucky hands.
Technical and practical problems abound with multi use, but the question is what other options are there that give answers in seconds, and can digitally record the answer for short term use? I'm seeing nothing, so it may not be optimal, but it'll do the job.
@justdavie, I suspect you are confusing the Microtox PD which is the pathogen detection unit from Modern Water for wastewater, with the Microtox BT (breathalyser). That was a description of the use of the same chip in a wastewater detection unit that runs continuous.
"they are not multi-use under current plans." - personally i think this is the problem and why the market reacted so badly. I cant see people or business wanting to pay repeatedly for these chips at the price mentioned. Personally the machine reader needs to be multi-use with a one off fee to buy the machine. And maybe subscription to access the database and process the result. As i stated before it is not going to be the new "vape pen", because nobody wants the inconvenience of COVID-19, but they would put up with blowing into a tube to access certain events or businesses etc, with the costs defrayed on the ticket price of entry. (thinking out loud)
Using a modified Microtrace OVA7100 (existing equipment from Modern Water), the Group are replacing the voltometer with a Novel Sensor which includes a laser scanner. A 10-micron filter is added to the current line in, after the existing 100-micron filter, and the modular electronics are reprogramed to provide for the existing robotic arm (normally used for reagent exchange) to exchange the microchips.
The 3,000+ sites that have been fitted by Modern Water, over the last 30 years, whether it's the membrane division that 'cleans' the water or the monitoring technology, that surveys for toxins, trace metals, chemicals or pesticides, are dotted all over the infrastructure of potable, drinking and wastewater systems, around the world.
Wherever there is a viable 'target' i.e. the best place where it is likely to pick up traces of the virus - that is where the Microtox PD is placed. In the case of a cruise ship, one of each unit would be adjacent to the (usually) five sludge tanks in the waste treatment units below deck.
Also the systems is designed so that clean/filtered samples in these environments (down to 10 microns) are deliver as one sample per chip. The chips are not constantly submerged, and they are not multi-use under current plans. So durability is not an issue and there is no issue to go away from.