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thanks Gixer, this is a great find, COFCO is a absolute giant in China, also the new product definitely contains FF because i can read Chinese:)
you are keeping the bb alive, and thanks again for your excellent research.
I don't think Sun Webs dosage was ever confirmed. I think standard dosage for other sports products is 150mg but would have to check.
Sun web pro team take FF to help with inflammation during training etc, does anybody know what dosage they take for this or is it just the standard 150mg?
But then you've already sold enough of your ill timed punt to absolutely ensure you'll never get all of your money back. Haven't you.
Spare all the readers here your constant self flagellation. Please.
Newlunar.
I pray every night for someone to buy PXS and rid me of this Dog for ever. The worse investment of my life. Over 10 years and FF is the best kept secret in the world. The dumbos at DSM haven't even jumped on the Covid bandwagon. 6 months and not a word from anyone. SP can't even get to a penny. Pathetic.
Alf know what your saying but I feel By-Health have spent big money on this , think they know their market and will know when and where to launch , as for the rest of the world you might be right .
Fruitflow came to the attention of the market just as the world was reeling from the banking shock. The next big step forward seems to be arriving just as the world is reeling again. Hope that brands are not sent back in to their shells, too nervous to spend on product launches and big promotion this time. Governments seem keen to keep the money supply flowing, lowering borrowing costs to try to stimulate expansion.
Sorry, picked your post up wrong .
Can't disagree with you.
Gixer maybe not an Rns but something on the news page like Bom Korea, or livextra yang
There have been other products with ff in china without blue cap.
Not sure it needs an RNS
You would think it worthy of mention from pxs , especially if they are already selling even without blue cap !
A little more info on the product.
http://www.cofcotomato.com/health/170.html
COFCO Tunhe Tomato Co., Ltd. (referred to as COFCO Tomato) is the relative holding company of COFCO Tunhe Sugar Co., Ltd. Its main business are the processing of tomato and other fruit and vegetable products.
http://www.cofcotomato.com/en/index
http://www.cofco.com/en/Investors/COFCOTunhe/
Cofco tomato products
https://tunhe.world.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm
Note some have Blue Cap. Will they Blue Cap this product????
Need to do a bit more digging but this could be the patent for the product
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=CN228767168&tab=NATIONALBIBLIO&_cid=P22-KBVSTO-26058-1
https://www.cofcointernational.com/
Thanks Sock70
"Fan Die, a graduate student from Sun Yat-sen University, shared the effects of water-soluble tomato extract (WTE) on human platelet granule secretion, thrombosis and related mechanisms, and found that WTE can effectively inhibit the surface expression of CD62P, CD40L and CD63 in human platelets."
https://www.hotbak.net/key/%E6%B1%95%E5%A4%B4%E5%A4%A7%E5%AD%A6%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E4%BA%94%E5%B1%8A%E7%A0%94%E7%A9%B6%E7%94%9F%E5%AD%A6%E6%9C%AF%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E4%B9%8B%E6%B5%B7%E6%B4%8B%E4%B8%8E%E7%94%9F%E5%91%BD%E5%AD%A6%E7%A7%91%E5%88%86%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E6%88%90%E5%8A%9F%E4%B8%BE%E5%8A%9E.html
Hard to say 100% as unable to translate but mentions EFSA 13.5 next to the pics with tomatoes.
https://cqzicai.com/goods.php?id=581
and here is a questionnaire that goes with the product.
Water-soluble tomato extract mentioned at point 7
https://www.wjx.cn/jq/26425919.aspx
Thanks, gixer! These links are such a great help. Appreciate it a lot. I'm sure we all do.
I would doubt that you need to publish the studies to gain Blue Hat. I would assume positive animal and/or human studies would be enough.
I believe the study publication you are referring to is the one that rip@burn highlighted. "Effects of water-soluble tomato concentrate on platelet aggregation"
This study has been done on humans "Human intervention study on dietary intake of water-soluble tomato extract"
Objectives of Study:To Clarify the role of water-soluble tomato extract on regulating platelet function in Chinese healthy adults, thus providing theoretical basis for primary prevention of cardiovascular diseases in China.
Study execute time:From2017-10-20To 2019-11-01
http://www.chictr.org.cn/showprojen.aspx?proj=22104
Maybe the results will be published maybe they won't. Or maybe they have been and nobody has found it.
...Thing is, the study is on rats. We need published Chinese human studies.
May be the next update will be with approval of BLUECAP and BY-Health is launching seven products all around the world. The Chinese would not spend so much money if they did not see the huge potential worldwide. Maybe the Coke/Pepsi/Unilever will line up to get FF in their product once BLUECAP is approved.
Good time to follow.
Have their been any failed studies? Or is it that these Dont get published?
It seems to me that all studies show great potential for FF so there's no reason to assume it won't get bluecap. But jeeez the lack of updates is deafening.
Speaking hypothetically here. Is there anything stopping another company putting in an offer to buy out Pxs? Even if by-health poured in all the money for the studies?
It's a tough read through ... cut and paste conclusion below
Conclusion
The above findings showed that WSTC inhibits ADP and collagen-induced platelet aggregation in vitro, in a concentration-dependent manner, and significantly suppresses ADP-induced platelet aggregation ex vivo without affecting the coagulation system in rats. In addition, we found that WSTC inhibits platelet activation and aggregation through modulation of platelet skeletal stability and signaling downstream of the integrin GP IIb/IIIa, likely via the PDI/PI3Kß110/PECAM-1 signaling pathway.
Soooo... the chinese have done their reasearch and they also know it works ... what next??... £££££
not my link ... Gixer's
The Question now is after all these test and all paid fore by By-Health working with the Chinese government, is By-Health now in confidential talks with Provexis and DSM to buy us out or to become full partners in producing Fruitflow products in China.???
From the article:-
"Effects of water-soluble tomato concentrate on platelet aggregation"
"Qian Zhang1, Xu-Guang Zhang2, Lei Liu1, Qiong-Ling Zhang1, Shi-Lan Ding1, Ying Chen1, Jin-Yu Wang1, Lan Wang1, Ri-Xin Liang1, Fu-Long Liao1, Ya-Hong Wang3, Yun You1"
"1 Center for Biomechanopharmacology, Institute of Chinese Materia Medica, China Academy of Chinese Medical Sciences, Beijing, China"
"2 Science and Technology Center, ByHealth Co., Ltd., Guangzhou, China"
"3 Department of Cardiovascular, Dongzhimen Hospital, Beijing University of Chinese Medicine, Beijing, China"
"Date of Submission 25-Mar-2019"
"Date of Decision 11-May-2019"
"Date of Acceptance 16-May-2019"
"Date of Web Publication 03-Dec-2019"
Final bit:- Tradit Chin Med [serial online] 2019 [cited 2020 Jun 25]"
Reads like latest news on the tests of Fruitflow in China.
"How to cite this article:"
"Zhang Q, Zhang XG, Liu L, Zhang QL, Ding SL, Chen Y, Wang JY, Wang L, Liang RX, Liao FL, Wang YH, You Y. Effects of water-soluble tomato concentrate on platelet aggregation. World J Tradit Chin Med 2019;5:260-8"
"How to cite this URL:"
"Zhang Q, Zhang XG, Liu L, Zhang QL, Ding SL, Chen Y, Wang JY, Wang L, Liang RX, Liao FL, Wang YH, You Y. Effects of water-soluble tomato concentrate on platelet aggregation. World J Tradit Chin Med [serial online] 2019 [cited 2020 Jun 25]"